Looking for advice on these 2 Subject To Deals!

Looking for advice on these 2 Subject To Deals!

Member since 2023 · 7 posts · 4 votes

Hello everyone, this is my first post here! I'm looking for some advice on 2  deals that I have available to me. I would love to make both work (there is no deadline date on these opportunities)

Current Financials Situation:

Primary residence 220k paid in full.

1 rental property cash flows 500 a month

45k cash available for investment and 20k in savings.

1st deal: C class property with a estimated property value of 120-125k. The owners are friends and they have a 3% mortgage with a payment of $600. They owe roughly 65k It Rents for $1200. . . . They will do a land contract. I can purchase the home for 110k with 0% interest. The only issue with that is they'd want most if not all equity up front (45k). I'm thinking about offering 25k down and pay them the 20k over 2 years. Which would bring my payment to roughly 1450 (1200 from rent) and additional $250 out of pocket. Then after the 2 years I'd only be liable for the mortgage payment. 

2nd Deal: Class B property with estimated value of 200k. Another friend. They owe 100k with a 4.25% rate and $900 monthly payment . I can purchase this one for 170k it Rents for $1700. He wants a down payment of 30k. This one would have a 40k equity balance. I can pay $300 out of pocket +$800 cash flow each month and pay off the 40k balance in 3 years.

Let me know your thoughts! Would you change the structure of these deals. I want to get them their equity asap and I can afford the $550 out of pocket each month for the 2-3years. Should I use the cash I have on hand or should I try and get a heloc. If you could only pick one which one would it be. Thank you to all who choose to reply!

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  • Investor · Get yourself trained before doing something inadvisable. · Member since 2024 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Antonio Martinez-Elizondo:

    Hello everyone, this is my first post here! I'm looking for some advice on 2  deals that I have available to me. I would love to make both work (there is no deadline date on these opportunities)

    Current Financials Situation:

    Primary residence 220k paid in full.

    1 rental property cash flows 500 a month

    45k cash available for investment and 20k in savings.

    1st deal: C class property with a estimated property value of 120-125k. The owners are friends and they have a 3% mortgage with a payment of $600. They owe roughly 65k It Rents for $1200. . . . They will do a land contract. I can purchase the home for 110k with 0% interest. The only issue with that is they'd want most if not all equity up front (45k). I'm thinking about offering 25k down and pay them the 20k over 2 years. Which would bring my payment to roughly 1450 (1200 from rent) and additional $250 out of pocket. Then after the 2 years I'd only be liable for the mortgage payment. 

    2nd Deal: Class B property with estimated value of 200k. Another friend. They owe 100k with a 4.25% rate and $900 monthly payment . I can purchase this one for 170k it Rents for $1700. He wants a down payment of 30k. This one would have a 40k equity balance. I can pay $300 out of pocket +$800 cash flow each month and pay off the 40k balance in 3 years.

    Let me know your thoughts! Would you change the structure of these deals. I want to get them their equity asap and I can afford the $550 out of pocket each month for the 2-3years. Should I use the cash I have on hand or should I try and get a heloc. If you could only pick one which one would it be. Thank you to all who choose to reply!

    The state the properties are in matters (laws & what is legal). Values are declining in 11 of 50 metros. Who the lenders are matters. Why they are selling matters. Your ability to refinance the properties in the event of a Due on Sale call matters. The rehab necessary, matters. The demand for rentals matter. Add closing costs to your equation. The payments will have taxes and insurance to consider. Using proper paperwork matters.

    Deal 1

    Generally looks like a decent deal, but I don't get the "Which would bring my payment to roughly 1450 (1200 from rent) and additional $250 out of pocket." Why? How does that work?


    Deal 2
    Looks reasonable.

    Anytime you can buy below value, not have to put a lot of money into a place and cash flow, it's going in the right direction.

  • Member since 2023 · 7 posts · 4 votes
    1y

    @Ken M. You know what,  subject to was the wrong term, land contract is what I meant. 0% interest land contract but I need to pay off the equity on both deals. So for instance the first deals purchase price is 110k they have a mortgage balance of 65k which means they have 45k in total equity. That's all they care about is me paying them their equity and once that's taken care of I'd only have to cover the mortgage payment even though the mortgage is in their name. I think because these are my friends the deals are unconventional and not the typical deals you'd normally come across.

    So when I say out of pocket I mean for the equity payment portion. 45k equity: If I pay them 25k up front I'd have to come up with the other 20k over the next 2 years. Assuming I'm getting 1200 rent, 600 a month goes towards that equity balance (7200/yr) the other 2800/12mo would be $233 on top. 

    I hope that clarified things for you.  I guess the only missing part would be the land contract term. I think for the purpose of the contract I'll just put 7year term. So after the 7yrs if have to pay the balance. Edit (I mentioned their interest rates because after the equity is paid off id only need to cover their .mortgage payment for the rest of the land contract term.)

  • Member since 2025 · 116 posts · 52 votes
    1y

    Hey Antonio, welcome! Both deals have potential, but Deal 2 looks stronger overall—better area, healthier cash flow, and more manageable terms. You’re keeping more cash on hand and still building equity.

    For Deal 1, tying up $45K for a C-class rental that runs negative cash flow early on is riskier. If you can negotiate better terms or lower the upfront equity, it becomes more appealing.

    If possible, use a HELOC on your primary to keep cash reserves. Flexibility is key when scaling.

    You’re thinking strategically—just watch liquidity and focus on long-term cash flow. Good luck!

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