Cost Seg Questions

Cost Seg Questions

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Nooby here. I'm trying to under stand Cost Segregation better. I have two questions. 1)I was reading an article that gave the following example:

"John Doe has $200k of taxable income on his W2 and buys an $800k 6-unit property. A cost segregation study may allow you to deduct $150k in depreciation expense in the tax year of acquisition.This would create a large tax loss (notably different than an actual operating loss). Let’s assume that John Doe lives in Colorado and that his filing status is Married Filing Jointly. See this example from Smart Asset. Assuming that John’s wife is managing the Airbnb Rental and qualifies as a material participant, John Doe’s family can deduct $150k from their w2 income for the year 2022 (Bonus depreciation 100%).This would equal $33,000 in a tax refund for the family. These are non-negligible numbers and can serve as a downpayment for the next property."

I understand the first part of the explanation, but can someone explain how they came up with a $33k tax refund?

2) If two partners were doing a STR deal, and Partner A is the money partner (puts name on loan, and provides down payment) and Partner B is the active manager. If they do a cost segregation on their new property, does just Partner A get the tax benefit?

Thank you for your help!!

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  • Accountant · San Diego, CA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 552 votes
    2y

    Hey @Kyle Thompson, 

    Im having trouble with that link you sent over, but I can explain in general: 

    cost segregations will create anywhere from 20-30% of the purchase price in depreciation available to take in year one. This is only available for folks to use against their w2 income (in general) via real estate professional status and short-term rental loophole. 

    As an investor, you can control who gets the tax benefit from the deal. But it depends greatly on the individual situation. Hope that helps I know its a bit generic, but talking with a real estate-focused tax pro about it will clear things up! 

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    2y

    Sounds like they’re saying lowering their income $150k would save them $33k in taxes.

    But…don’t forget. You’re not creating a tax deduction you’re only pulling it forward. So after you do this one of two things is going to happen. You’re going to sell and owe all that money back. Or you’re going to hold on to the property and every year you will have that much less to depreciate against your taxes, creating more taxes every year. 

    Think of it this way. You have some 10%, some 15% some 20% and some 25% tax bracket income. Year one you do the cost seg and you wipe out all those taxes. But year 2 you have less depreciation so your left over depreciation only wipes out the 25% taxes. That means you’re paying in a higher tax bracket this year because you wiped out some 10% taxes last year. Your first tax deductions are the most valuable, your last deductions the least valuable. Take too many deductions and You could literally be taking deductions against untaxed income. 

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