Financing while using SDIRA funds as down payment

Financing while using SDIRA funds as down payment

Homeowner · Whitewater, WI · Member since 2011 · 16 posts · 4 votes

I'm trying to figure out how to ask this--I feel like I have 3 pieces of a 500 piece puzzle.

What I have:

-Self Directed Traditional IRA which has sufficient funds for a down payment for a property, but not for an outright purchase.

What I want:

A non-recourse mortgage using SDIRA money for a down payment.

I'm not sure I can even do this--I went to the State Foreclosure Laws page and looked at Wisconsin, but don't really know what I'm reading. I didn't see the word 'recourse'.

I guess what I'd like to hear from anyone reading this is what would be the best course of action for investing this SDIRA given the above circumstances.

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Will BarnardPro Member
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Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
14y

Andrew, I will take a stab at your questions. You can "partner" with your IRA, but as I stated before, there are rules and limitations to it, you should consult a tx professional on this who is familair with SDIRA's.

As far as flipping, you need to know that flipping homes directly competes with non-IRA entities and as such, profits are subject to UBIT, rehardless if you have a pertnership with the IRA in which the IRA held 60% and your funds outside the IRA held 40%.
If the additional funds needed was say $10k or less, and if you are married, you could simply place that $10k into the IRA as your annual max contribution.

Better yet, if you are self employed and have no full time employees (other than your spouse) you can set up a solo 401k plan in which the max contributions are much higher than that of an IRA, you have borrowing provisions of up to $50k or 50% of your vested interest, and using debt financing in the 401k is not subject to the UDFI which triggers UBIT.

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  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    14y

    @ Daniel - I am not 1005 sure as it has been quite a while since I looked at it, but I believe that one of the rules regarding your IRA partnering with funds outside of your IRA - the IRA must have at least more than 50% of the partnership and from what you have mentioned, it sounds like your IRA % is well under that in your example.

    I will check on this when I have time.

  • Will BarnardPro Member
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    Developer · Santa Clarita, CA · Member since 2008 · 15k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    14y

    Here is a copy and paste from the IRS publication involving prohibited transactions:

    "[NOTE: The term "disqualified person" under the Internal Revenue Code does not include siblings (brothers and sisters) or aunts, uncles and cousins of the IRA owner.]

    Service providers of the IRA (e.g., IRA custodian, CPA, financial planner);

    An entity (such as a corporation, partnership, limited liability company, trust or estate) of which 50% or more is owned directly or indirectly or held by a fiduciary or service provider; also a 10% or more partner or joint venturer of such entity;

  • Rehabber · Camarillo, CA · Member since 2011 · 32 posts · 1 vote
    14y

    Will- A little late but thanks for the clarification very helpful

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