Investor · Chestnut Ridge, NY · Member since 2023 · 27 posts · 4 votes
Hi,
I recently starting investing in FL in SFH and duplexes.
I reached out to 2-3 lenders in FL to see what financing options they have and I figured I'll try my luck here too to get more options.
I know it's hard to give a exact interest rate but you can give a best case scenario of the lending products you offer with todays rates.
I purchase my properties in an LLC. Homes that are in the 300-400 ARV range for buy and hold long term rentals.
Do you offer conventional loans or just investment loans? What is your min. DSCR? What is your current rate (If the borrower has a good credit) Are they Recourse or not and is there a pre payment penalty? Can I get supplement to the loan after we raise the rents?
@Ari Steinman - if you are asking lenders for interest rates be sure to ask interest and discount points, because interest rate is 1/2 of the equation. If I can get a 6% 30 yr fixed on a rental, that sounds great, until I tell you its $30,000 in discount points to buy the rate. Rate + discount points!
Any conventional loan in America is not allowed to close in a LLC. You must either close in your name or in the name of your trust. But, you can move title to your LLC immediately after closing. Fannie Mae is fine with this as long as you are the majority member of the LLC.
What downpayment are you looking at? If you want the best deal, rental properties with 25%-30% down are getting better financing terms than 15%-20% options.
Only DSCR loans will have PPP (prepayment penalties) and they range from 0-5 years depending on the lender and what you want. You can take a higher interest rate and select a 1 yr PPP for example. Or, maybe you want a lower rate and you are ok with a 3-4 yr PPP (which is too long IMO).
I am not sure what you mean by "supplement" to the loan after you raise rents. Can you explain?
Yes- thanks for pointing that out- 100% true story!
I thoughts most lenders wont let you transfer in onto an LLC after purchase?
I'm looking at in the 25% down range.
By supplement I meant that one lender told me that they are lending based on DSCR amount and they cant lend me the full 75% LTV right now based on current rates but since they see the potential in the raised rents I will get in a year they are willing to add more money to the loan then when they see the higher rents.
@ari - sure thing. Raised rates, I have not seen that from my lenders. That type of presumption about the future can get a little dicey, I am surprised anyone wants to assume what rents will be in 1 year.
For the LLC item, here is the quote from the Fannie Mae selling guide "A transfer of the property (or, if the borrower is an inter vivos revocable trust, a transfer of a beneficial interest in the trust) to a limited liability company (LLC), provided that
the mortgage loan was purchased or securitized by Fannie Mae on or after June 1, 2016, and
the LLC is controlled by the original borrower or the original borrower owns a majority interest in the LLC, and if the transfer results in a permitted change of occupancy type to an investment property, such change does not violate the security instrument (for example, the 12 month occupancy requirement for a principal residence)."
I am currently working with a local broker but I'm happy to take advice from anyone offering :-)
But can I hear about your investors mortgage options?
Hey Ari, happy to connect anytime even just for advice. Thank you for the mention, @Raymond J. Rodrigues! If you want to message me we can always chat!