Funding from mom, opportunity or nightmare?

Funding from mom, opportunity or nightmare?

New to Real Estate · Des Moines, IA · Member since 2021 · 4 posts · 6 votes

Hello BP. I am looking to get into multi-family rentals and may have stumbled across an opportunity (or liability). My original plan was to purchase single family properties for a few years and use the rental income to save towards a multi-family, then sell the single-families. Ideally, I would have a complex with a dozen or so units in 5-10 years. My thoughts here are that a multi-unit building would allow me the capacity to hire a property manager and minimize my workload with multiple single-family units.

Now, I was chatting about this with my family and my mother said she is very interested in investing. Obviously, I am cautious of this since I hear a lot of horror stories, so I would have a legal contract written. My question for the community is if this is something worth pursuing? In my mind, I think it would be foolish to turn down cash aid which would allow me to "skip some steps" of finding single family home deals, and I could jump to the multi-family plan, though perhaps at 4-6 units instead of a dozen to start with.

The way I see it there are two approaches. I could write her in as a business partner for this one property and provide income payments to her as a silent investor at some type of split (45-55) or something like that. Or, I could take a loan from her, and pay her back interest plus principle over 3 years or so, which would leave full ownership of the company to me after that time. 

Now, full transparency, I do not yet own any investment properties. I was buying a year ago but had to postpone due to a baby coming into the picture and had to be (understandably) conservative with my savings. That is another reason I am interested in a multi-family with a management company (if the numbers work of course). 

So, I ask the community. Feel free to be fully honest with me! I am obviously new at this and you won't hurt my feelings!

Best, 

Ian

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Investor · Youngstown, OH · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
4y

My dad is my business partner and PM. We've been working together for 5-6 years now. You're already aware of the need for operating agreements that spell out who does what. Make sure you stay in your own lanes and trust one another to do what they are most skilled at. Good luck!

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  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    4y

    @Ian Korpel obviously I know nothing about your family dynamics; you will have to sort that out. I have always steered away from from discussing my real estate business with friends and family. I do it here and at REI meetings.

    Regardless of opinions about good or bad, people can have very successful REI enterprises with family members. You could form an LLC with both of you as members, have a contract and find some deals. The more units you have under one roof the easier everything else becomes-at least that has been my experience.

    Consider putting mom to work. Both of you need to know the numbers and study up on property management and local laws whether you hire a PM or not. Is mom good with people? All the best!

  • Ben ScottPro Member
    Property Manager · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2019 · 577 posts · 351 votes
    4y

    I'd pursue the loan option first and see if your mom is game for that. Investors all have different strategies and exit plans and risk tolerance and it's unlikely you and your mom would match in all three. Include her on all your plans as an investor/lender but keep 100% ownership. If she likes all your moves and ideas, maybe include her as a partner on the next one. 

  • Investor · Youngstown, OH · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    My dad is my business partner and PM. We've been working together for 5-6 years now. You're already aware of the need for operating agreements that spell out who does what. Make sure you stay in your own lanes and trust one another to do what they are most skilled at. Good luck!

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    4y

    You'll have less complications in the long run with a loan. 

    Speak with an attorney and have them draw up a Note & Mortgage, so that if anything happens to you - your mom has a lien on the property so she gets paid off.

    The reverse though, also needs to be considered - what happens if she dies? If she is a partner, you may find other family in your business, telling you what to do. If it's a loan, you simply keep paying her estate back.

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