Out of State Rental is Property Management worth it

Out of State Rental is Property Management worth it

Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2016 · 593 posts · 664 votes

Hey BP!

I have a rental property in CA and am currently a Real Estate agent in OH. I've got one key question for you all. Is having a property manager worth it? 

Pros

- I'm out of the state

- They do a good job in keeping records

- They find renters

-Any small repairs I don't even hear about

Cons

-$$$

The property management company I have has a 10% fee. My property currently rents for 1250, thus they take $125.00 every month. This is pure cash flow that I am missing out on. Is it worth it? The real question is risk. I could get perfect tenants in there and managing the property would be beautiful. But if I have tenants that are awful, the stress wouldn't even have any comparison. What are your thoughts? Thank you!

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Real Estate Investor · Memphis, TN · Member since 2016 · 940 posts · 695 votes
9y

@Austin Steed - We have a local rental and use a PM.  Completely worth it.  Just the cost of doing business.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Encinitas, CA · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y
    Austin Steed Yes, it's worth it. What happens at unit turnover? Are you going to get applications online and fly out to hand over the keys? Never meet the tenants you're vetting and renting to face-to-face? Pay a few hundred dollars for plane tickets, car rental, etc.? If you're waiting to do that what's then cost of another 2 weeks of vacancy? Even a sub-optimal (not a "disaster") turnover could negate your PM savings. That said, sure it's possible, but I look at it a little like pest control. Paying for preventative maintenance seems like a waste, until you don't do it, and end up with termite damage. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I just got my quarterly lest control bill...ugh...
  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    9y

    There is no such thing as a perfect tenant. Managing out of state yourself will cost you more than a PM will charge. When things turn bad you will regret not having had a PM all along.

  • Property Manager · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 296 posts · 143 votes
    9y

    Unless you can get to CA at 3am for a pipe bursting or a fire breaking out I would hire the PM. Just make sure you vet them thoroughly. 

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 506 posts · 311 votes
    9y

    Another PM adding to the thread....Out-of-state people on their first turnover are my best new clients.....

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    Rental Property Investor · Baltimore County Maryland and Tampa Florida · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    Unless you love wasting your time and money in not-fun travel, extra stress, extra calls/emails/texts about silly things, and the list goes on.... then YES, A PM IS WORTH IT! :-)

  • Real Estate Investor · Memphis, TN · Member since 2016 · 940 posts · 695 votes
    9y

    @Austin Steed - We have a local rental and use a PM.  Completely worth it.  Just the cost of doing business.

  • Buy & Hold Owner · Redlands, CA · Member since 2015 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    IMO, I can not envision attempting out-of-state REI w/o a PM as being practical.

  • Investor · Leander, TX · Member since 2016 · 299 posts · 402 votes
    9y

    Love my PM team and can't imagine doing this without them. 

    I pay $100.00 a month in management fees, for each of my properties, actually prepaid for the year, just like ripping off the bandaid so to speak.

    Money well spent IMO.

  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    Wow, a lot of PMs on here saying they are necessary! They have very valid points, but keep in mind there are mitigations that can be used to reduce your risk if you want to manage from afar, but it is certainly not fool proof.

    For example, you can get a new lock for the door that allows you to provide time-sensitive access codes. At that point, there are no more problems with access. You can find agents/property managers that offer ala cart lease-up services but do not continue to manage afterwards. Scheduling the turnover maintenance will be the most difficult, but if you know people in the area, or have your own contacts built up it is perfectly do-able.

    The real questions are, what are you good at? and how much time do you want to spend? It is easy when nothing is wrong but it gets much harder when there is work to be done.

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