tenant offered to pay 12 months rent up front should i take it?

tenant offered to pay 12 months rent up front should i take it?

Investor · Nesconset, NY · Member since 2016 · 16 posts · 5 votes

Thanks for taking a moment to read this post I could use some advice.

This potential tenant was formerly my landscaper who moved south with his wife a few years back.  Long story short, she became ill, medical bills turned them upside down and sadly ended up passing away.  He sold home to cover medical bills, and received a 6 figure death benefit after she passed.  To add more sadness to the story, he was diagnosed with stomach cancer which was under control until recently discovering it is back. 

Bottom line- he needs to come back to NY for treatment, needs a place to live with his 2 black labs and is willing to pay 12 months up front.  I am on the fence for obvious reasons.  

So far I know his landscaping business is still open, run by a partner however I do not know their agreement and his income just yet.  He claims to have over 100k in the bank now my concern is how long that will last.  Even with good insurance it could cost a fortune to be ill.  

The unit is 2 bed 2 bath detached cottage with private backyard and we are in the process of renovating it.  It will have new kitchen, new bathrooms and flooring with washer/dryer in the unit.  I have no doubt I will be able to get a good tenant in quickly in my market.   

What would you do? 

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Rental Property Investor · TX · Member since 2019 · 303 posts · 364 votes
7y

@Frank Mirando

Like @Thomas S. said, there must be a reason this guy wants to pay 12 months up front. (I disagree with Thomas that it is always a "bribe". He's stereotyping tenants. That is why I did not up vote his comment.) Did you ask the guy why he wants to pay 12 months in advance? Did you tell him that you still needed to run a background check?

I tried this once, paying 12 months rent up front. No property management companies would even consider me, so that left me with individual landlords. Most thought I was on the lam, a drug dealer, or a sexual predator. Really, I just did not want anyone to know where I lived. I didn't want to give my social security number out, I didn't want my name on their rent roll, I didn't want to show my 1040's to them, I didn't want them pulling my credit history and I didn't want them reporting my address to the credit bureaus.

If someone approaches me with an offer to pay for a year in advance, I would consider it as long as they explain to me their reasoning and they agree to let me run a criminal background check. I would ask them questions about their business, why they don't buy a house, how they can afford to pay $10k+ in one lump sum. I might also make them show me proof of funds (i.e. where the money is coming from.) I would work with them based on their situation, not jump to unreasonable preconceived conclusions (as most landlords do) on what this might mean.

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  • Specialist · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2018 · 270 posts · 187 votes
    7y

    Yes take it. If he pays upfront for 12 month.

  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    7y
    If tenants are easy to find I would pass on this guy. Accepting rent up front is intended as a bribe to cloud a landlords thinking. It prevents proper screening standards from being followed. If you take the bribe you must place it in a separate account from your business and withdraw the money monthly as a normal rental payment. It is not your money it is your tenants money until withdrawn monthly. Legally they can request it to be returned the day after they move in should they choose. This applicant may not live a year causing you to go through another tenant turnover, I would definatly pass.
  • Rental Property Investor · TX · Member since 2019 · 303 posts · 364 votes
    7y

    @Frank Mirando

    Like @Thomas S. said, there must be a reason this guy wants to pay 12 months up front. (I disagree with Thomas that it is always a "bribe". He's stereotyping tenants. That is why I did not up vote his comment.) Did you ask the guy why he wants to pay 12 months in advance? Did you tell him that you still needed to run a background check?

    I tried this once, paying 12 months rent up front. No property management companies would even consider me, so that left me with individual landlords. Most thought I was on the lam, a drug dealer, or a sexual predator. Really, I just did not want anyone to know where I lived. I didn't want to give my social security number out, I didn't want my name on their rent roll, I didn't want to show my 1040's to them, I didn't want them pulling my credit history and I didn't want them reporting my address to the credit bureaus.

    If someone approaches me with an offer to pay for a year in advance, I would consider it as long as they explain to me their reasoning and they agree to let me run a criminal background check. I would ask them questions about their business, why they don't buy a house, how they can afford to pay $10k+ in one lump sum. I might also make them show me proof of funds (i.e. where the money is coming from.) I would work with them based on their situation, not jump to unreasonable preconceived conclusions (as most landlords do) on what this might mean.

  • Property Manager · Gurnee, IL · Member since 2012 · 94 posts · 43 votes
    7y

    @Frank Mirando

    Don’t do it. In my years as a property manager I’ve always been advised to never accept more than one month of rent in advance. There is usually something shady going on, and if the tenant violates the lease it will be extremely difficult to get him out (or so I’ve been told - I’ve never accepted rent in advance like this before). When people make this type of offer they are usually hiding something or trying to offset other issues that would otherwise result in a denial of their application.

  • Rental Property Investor · Indiana...mostly · Member since 2019 · 468 posts · 245 votes
    7y

    My application actually offers 5% off per month for months paid in advance.  That's quite a discount.  I've had a few people take advantage of it but not many, for example if they recently sold their home and were between houses and had $.

    My State is not difficult to evict though.  So I suppose I have an advantage if something goes wrong.

    The tenant takes on some risk too in paying in advance.

  • Rental Property Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2016 · 126 posts · 71 votes
    7y

    I personally wouldn't accept the upfront year payment. I had this experience once with a prospective tenant and his wife. They seemed fine when showing them the property and at the end offered to pay a full year upfront. Something about receiving a bonus or something like that. Afterwards I told them I'd run their application and background check. They paid me the app fee ($50 total) and left. They emailed me after the meeting (about an hr later) and said they have a dog, in which I emailed them back saying that its an extra $25 a month for the pet. They emailed me back and flew off the handle, swearing at me and told me to forget it! At that point I was so happy that happened, probably saved me a year of headaches.

    Point is that, if you accept a years payment and the tenant becomes very difficult to handle or causing problems, you will have a heck of a time evicting them. A missed payment is pretty cut and dry. 

    Brian

  • Catskill, NY · Member since 2018 · 636 posts · 668 votes
    7y

    When I did PM, we had a guy who would rent from us for 6 months to a year and paid in full in advance. He would do live in flips basically and if he didn't have another house lined up, he'd rent an apt. for a short period of time. Never had an issue with him. Every situation is different, though. Like already stated, potential tenant turnover in a couple months if he should pass away is a small issue. But if he's clean and doesn't damage anything, any costs associated with that would be minimal. I would screen him like any other tenant and find out the agreement with his partner to see how much, if any, income he's making from the business.

  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    7y

    big red flag . I’d be more worried about stomach cancer than the upfront payment . I hate to say that because it sucks and I feel for the guy . But when a tenant dies in your unit (this really sucks) it causes an expensive drawn out headache for landlords and I’m trying to mitigate risk ,turnover ,and expenses in my business if I can help it .

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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    7y

    @Frank Mirando

    Big red flag? Only bad tenants?

    Screen him like you would anyone else. If everything looks good, except the year's rent in advance if your state law allows. Do not spend the money until it is earned! You need to have the funds available if he expires or breaks the lease and deserves a refund of any amount.

    I manage over 300 rentals. I've only had a few tenants pay the entire year in advance and in all cases they did it for many years and were excellent tenants the entire time.

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  • Member since 2019 · 16 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Frank Mirando I’m not seeing an issue. I did this in college. I was a goofy out on his own sophomore, who was concerned about cash flow management. I didn’t want to end up being short on rent ever, so I wrote the property management company 12 months up front. They were skeptical at first, but after explaining my situation they permitted it.

  • Steve RozenbergPro Member
    Specialist · Houston, TX · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    I would take it but just make sure you have a written policy and procedure for situations like this. If you don’t have one this is the time to create one

  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Frank Mirando

    As a tenant I’ve asked to pay in advance for a period of time, 6 or 12 months, etc. I also asked about pre-payment discounts, which they did provide.

    I was fine with them following their regular screening process, I just didn’t want to worry about paying rent monthly, at the time this place took payment by check monthly, they didn’t have an online or automated option.

    On a side note, I did this when I was quite ill and downsized from a OO to a rental, he is sort of in a similar situation. Ask the guy what his intentions are. For me it was a mental thing. Even though I had a terminal illness I figured if I pre-paid to live somewhere for a year I'd need to be alive to do that. It sounds a little nutty but having cancer messes with your brain a lot.

    He may have less than good intentions with his request but give him a shot at explaining them so you can make a decision.

    Good luck

  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2013 · 919 posts · 911 votes
    7y

    Don’t do it. I had a guy try to offer me 12 months upfront.  I gave him an application, his work history information (and credit) didn’t pan out.  Who knows what else was untrue.  

  • Cedar Rapids, IA · Member since 2016 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    @Steve Hall this is solid advice. I have one tenant who does it. She is a shut in and hates having anyone even talk to her. Only issue I’ve had is her ignitor went out and had to send hvac guys out. She was fine for them but just wanted them gone ASAP. She does have a lot of stuff but 🥴 so do a lot of my renters.

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