Earth Quake Insurance —- To get or not to get???

Earth Quake Insurance —- To get or not to get???

Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles · Member since 2019 · 284 posts · 184 votes

Those of you who invest in California or Pacific Coast that own property,  what are your thoughts on Earthquake insurance?   Do you have them for your properties?   Is it worth it?      If not, what will you do in an event of a major earthquake??

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Rental Property Investor · Everett, WA · Member since 2015 · 458 posts · 386 votes
7y

@Alvin Uy I think about the cost of the insurance in comparison to how much equity you have in your properties.  We have seen large growth in the value of our portfolio so protecting that value with insurance makes sense.  As such, we carry earth quake insurance on all our rentals along with loss of rent provisions.  We went through a broker and the rates were expensive but not terrible.  There are a lot of different major companies selling insurance policies.  If you are concerned about any specific one, you could always move your coverage to a different company.

Insurance is simply a means of transferring risk that people do not want to accept.  There is no universal right answer, just like investing, everyone's level of risk tolerance will be different.  All you need to do is determine your level of comfort with taking on the risk of loss from an earth quake.

Best of luck,

John Barrett

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  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles · Member since 2019 · 284 posts · 184 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Alvin Sylvain:
    Originally posted by @Alvin Uy:

    Those of you who invest in California or Pacific Coast that own property,  what are your thoughts on Earthquake insurance?   Do you have them for your properties?   Is it worth it?      If not, what will you do in an event of a major earthquake??

    " ...[friend] He thinks if the big one were to hit, this company will more than likely go bankrupt and will never payout the claims."

    Tell your friend there's a serious flaw in his logic.

    Hell, if he wants to use logic like that, why bother buying any insurance at all? Suppose the entire state of California burns down in a massive wildfire that puts the "Wooley" and "Camp" fires to shame? Suppose all the Central American gangs invade Southern California all at once and rob each and every household over the course of a couple of weeks, shooting and killing and maiming as they go?

    Yah, under such circumstances, a lot of insurance companies would likely go belly-up rather than even attempt to pay out claims. So why bother having any insurance at all?

    BUT -- suppose there's a disaster of a somewhat smaller magnitude? Just your property catches fire, and only in the front bedroom. Only your TV is stolen and a few pieces of jewelry. And an earthquake far smaller than "The Big One" hits, but it's big enough to cause damage? Say, chimney collapses and crushes your automobile.

    You'd kinda want to have insurance under those situations, I'd expect, and their probability is much greater I think.

    I have 5 properties.  $1000/yr average earthquake ins... with a whopping $50k deductible on each.  Ouch!  

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Alvin Uy $1000 per year PER PROPERTY I’m assuming, yes? What’s the average value of these properties?

    Your numbers sound similar to what I’m seeing in San Francisco on a per dollar value average btw...

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles · Member since 2019 · 284 posts · 184 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Amit M.:

    @Alvin Uy $1000 per year PER PROPERTY I’m assuming, yes? What’s the average value of these properties?

    Your numbers sound similar to what I’m seeing in San Francisco on a per dollar value average btw...

    Yes... $1000k ave per property.  All my properties currently are ranging $800k-$1.4M.  

  • Real Estate Agent · Cupertino, CA · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Do you have rare antiques, collectible statues that will break because of the building sway? Have them secured, waxed in at bottom.  Insurance companies love to take these lucrative as the damages 5%, 10%, 20% deductible. The math works like this: $1M(improvement added)=$50K damage from 5% deductible. Unless you have a structure on a cliff with liquefaction foundation not seismically braced, the chances of a serious damage affecting the modern structures is low. During the 1907 SF Earth Quake there is one district where there was zero home damage. All homes were built on solid rocks beneath! In fact that area still command top home prices.   

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