Ohio Small Claims - Breach of Sale Agreement

Ohio Small Claims - Breach of Sale Agreement

Investor · Tallmadge, OH · Member since 2014 · 81 posts · 32 votes

Hello Everybody, 

I need some recommendations on this scenario;

Recently purchased a 3 unit, fully rented property, and received 1 of 3 deposits. This is a D property in a B+ area so some abnormalities were not unexpected, but this is different. The closing disclosures stated there was only 1 of 3 deposits, which was questioned at closing and the seller's agent "confirmed" was correct prior to signing. When introducing myself (landlord/property manager) and the owner (my wife) to the tenants and informing them there were no deposits on file for the existing leases they both produced a lease agreement indicating deposits along with the previous owners signature. When our agent contacted the seller he said "sue me, take me to small claims court", arguing the tenant leases were fake, but refusing to supply his matching lease pages. 

Additionally, the landlord had one tenant living without electric to half his unit (kitchen half) for a week prior to closing. IMO This repair would be an exception to the "AS-IS" clause as it was functional during all visits and was disclosed to the prior owner with enough time to repair prior to closing. Same as a seller can't break all the windows day before closing and claim the sale is "as-is."

My question is as follows; 

Since my wife is the owner is there a way to recoup the cost of my (property management) time as eligible for reimbursement? I have 6-8 hours in multiple contacts over the last 2 weeks obtaining documentation and requesting these funds be supplied. Ohio does not allow for a plaintiff to recoup costs of preparing the claim or lost work time related to filing, but what about the cost of property management? Does she have to subpoena me as a witness or am I actually a plaintiff via marriage? Our other properties are held in my name only, so she would technically have zero history for fees. My W-2 rate is higher than hers, and my hourly income exclusively related to RE is about 6X my hourly W-2 rate. Are we reasonably allowed to seek the RE rate or only her W2 rate? The deposits and repair are a meager $1200, but total claim would be as high as $3500-$4000 if applying my RE rate for our least profitable property, and over the $6k limit if using an average rate of all properties.

I expect the base deposits to be a slam dunk win, with issues during collection probably requiring wage garnishment from 1 spouse. I'd love some input from anyone with past experience on a similar transaction.

TIA!

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
5y

give it a shot  trier of fact will give you the answer they are just like anyone else  have good days  bad days have certain bias etc.  I have been to Small claims a few times and won each time.  

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  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    5y

    give it a shot  trier of fact will give you the answer they are just like anyone else  have good days  bad days have certain bias etc.  I have been to Small claims a few times and won each time.  

  • Investor · Tallmadge, OH · Member since 2014 · 81 posts · 32 votes
    5y

    Thanks for the encouragement @Jay Hinrichs, I'm hoping someone has some relevant experience so it isn't construed as an attempt to gain "punitive" damages and quickly discarded.

  • San Jose, CA · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    Punitive damages are really rare, but it never hurts to ask.  Also, you're not expected to know the law, so don't be afraid to ask for the moon.  I, personally, doubt you could get reimbursed for your time, but nothing bad can happen to you if you ask.  Just be calm and respectful.  Ask for the max amount of money you can think of on the form (within the limit), take documentation and proof of your out of pocket costs with you and any proof of the seller telling you to just sue, even if it's texts - they're admissible as writings.  On the form, also write "and court costs and any punitive damages the court finds appropriate."

    The judge normally can't award you more than you ask for, but can give you less than you ask for.  This is why you go ahead and ask for the moon.  Then just tell the judge you weren't sure what was allowed or not, so you are asking for everything you can think of and trusting him/her to award you what's fair.

    What a pain.  Good luck.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    5y

    Small claims is for Actual losses.... no value for your time.

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