Tenant has moved out without paying rent.

Tenant has moved out without paying rent.

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I have a tenant in Connecticut on a month-to-month lease who notified me a week ago (around mid-March) that she is moving out. She hasn't paid rent for March and the month-to-month lease requires a 30 day notification policy prior to termination so technically, she owes rent for April as well. I was going to use her security deposit to cover March's rent until I saw her unit. Her dogs destroyed the porch. The dogs urinated all over the floor and I will have to tear up and replace the floors, sheetrock, etc. 

What are my options here? Is it worth small claims court? I do not know where she moved to so I have no way of contacting her other than via phone.

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Joe S.Pro Member
Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
5y

Wow they moved out for free? With one month behind? There are lots of landlords that  desire to trade places with you right about now. 

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  • Investor · Morrison, CO · Member since 2015 · 221 posts · 177 votes
    5y

    Just like what @Levi T. said, I hope that you have a previous tenant application which includes all that information.  I know sometimes inheriting a tenant you may not have this pertinent information of DOB and SSN, and I've learned the hard way of not gathering this information ASAP after taking over properties.  I want to AT LEAST send it to collections and have it hit their record so that hopefully the next landlord that runs their information will see this and won't rent to them.  Unfortunately there isn't a lot of recourse in our system against tenants and it's not a great use of our time and energy to do small claims.  Hopefully you have at least some of their deposit and then you can submit to the collection agency of choice to hit their credit and reporting.  Trust me when I say, I know what you're going through!

  • Levi T.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tucson AZ / Nice FR / Washington DC · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Justin Hoggatt:

    Just like what @Levi T. said, I hope that you have a previous tenant application which includes all that information.  I know sometimes inheriting a tenant you may not have this pertinent information of DOB and SSN, and I've learned the hard way of not gathering this information ASAP after taking over properties.  I want to AT LEAST send it to collections and have it hit their record so that hopefully the next landlord that runs their information will see this and won't rent to them.  Unfortunately there isn't a lot of recourse in our system against tenants and it's not a great use of our time and energy to do small claims.  Hopefully you have at least some of their deposit and then you can submit to the collection agency of choice to hit their credit and reporting.  Trust me when I say, I know what you're going through!

    **inheriting a tenant** Don't even get me started 😂.. My all time favorite is buying a bunch of units from the HOUSING AUTHORITY. One of the units parentally had a small fire from the HVAC system year prior. I dropped by to inspect after closing, and the tenant's 5y is running in circles in the living room. While I'm talking to these new tenants I just inherited, they inform me there is a hole in the living room floor, and point to the spot in the carpet, which I then put my foot on, and promptly fall through to my knee, while their child keeps running in circles around me. I get up, and I'm like this place is condemnable, while they are like no-no, it's totally fine... A week later the SWAT raided the house for drug dealing. Old landlords become slumlords I have learned, and tenant onboard forms are so-so-so important, name, address, phone, email, ss, and dob... because 99% of them folks are getting evicted within 12 months or less, and the only option is to toss them to a collection company, and forget about it.

  • Deland, FL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    Step by step what I do 

    Keep all the money she has with you 

    Pay Atty to send her notice you are keeping it 

    Have same  Atty sue for all the damage missed rent etc 

    Get judgement agains her 

    Eventually when she goes to get a loan, probably years larger, receive a call from your Atty asking where to send the check including interest 

    Life is too short to get worked up over little things like this.  Let the Atty handle it and forget it 

  • Rental Property Investor · Northern NJ · Member since 2016 · 341 posts · 144 votes
    5y

    @Garrett Knecht you should be very happy that she left, she could’ve stayed six months and Not pay you and you couldn’t have done anything regardless.

    Don’t look behind, look forward swallow the loss and move on.

    As far as small claims court go: these people usually never have anything in their bank account in excess of a couple of hundred dollars, they are essentially judgment proof.

    Just my two cents.

    

  • Lender · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2016 · 11 posts · 6 votes
    5y

    It may be best to move on. Take plenty of pictures and start the rehab. Use as a lesson for the future.

  • Attorney · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    If you have a good collection system in place it makes sense.  Find a local collections company that will work with you.  Get a reputation for sending people to collections.

  • Joe S.Pro Member
    Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Michael Plante:

    Step by step what I do 

    Keep all the money she has with you 

    Pay Atty to send her notice you are keeping it 

    Have same  Atty sue for all the damage missed rent etc 

    Get judgement agains her 

    Eventually when she goes to get a loan, probably years larger, receive a call from your Atty asking where to send the check including interest 

    Life is too short to get worked up over little things like this.  Let the Atty handle it and forget it 

    Where does someone find an attorney like that and what are the attorney fees? 

  • Deland, FL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Joe S.:
    Originally posted by @Michael Plante:

    Step by step what I do 

    Keep all the money she has with you 

    Pay Atty to send her notice you are keeping it 

    Have same  Atty sue for all the damage missed rent etc 

    Get judgement agains her 

    Eventually when she goes to get a loan, probably years larger, receive a call from your Atty asking where to send the check including interest 

    Life is too short to get worked up over little things like this.  Let the Atty handle it and forget it 

    Where does someone find an attorney like that and what are the attorney fees? 

    Google real estate Atty in my area 

    Cost me approx $100 for the certified letter 

    Going to court their fee is included in the judgement against the tenant    Last time it was $750

  • Ian WalshBusiness Member
    Lender · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    It is likely not worth pursuing and to just move on.  You are probably chasing dead money.

  • John MorganPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Grand Prairie, TX · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    This happened to me last year. I just took my losses and moved on. I don’t sweat the small stuff. Things happen and it’s not worth it to me to waste time and energy dealing with stuff like this.

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Garrett Knecht:

    What are my options here? Is it worth small claims court? I do not know where she moved to so I have no way of contacting her other than via phone.

    I'm always stunned at the amount of people on this forum that will tell others to just write off a large loss. These are the same people who will post, boasting about raising the price of the laundry by 25c and that this will produce an extra $4 a month in income. Yet, they tell someone with a major loss to just let it go. 

    Figure out your losses ASAP. Send a breakdown and demand notice to the tenant at their old address with Address Service Requested. USPS will provide you with their new address as long as a forwarding order has been submitted. 

    If no response, file in small claims court.

    Turn judgment over to collection agency. They can work to find out where the person works and garnish wages and find out their bank and get a levy. 

    While a very small amount of people may be "judgment proof", it's doubtful that you rented to one of them. Most people who are judgment proof are not tenants that a competent landlord would accept. 

  • Crystal SmithPro Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Garrett Knecht:

    I have a tenant in Connecticut on a month-to-month lease who notified me a week ago (around mid-March) that she is moving out. She hasn't paid rent for March and the month-to-month lease requires a 30 day notification policy prior to termination so technically, she owes rent for April as well. I was going to use her security deposit to cover March's rent until I saw her unit. Her dogs destroyed the porch. The dogs urinated all over the floor and I will have to tear up and replace the floors, sheetrock, etc. 

    What are my options here? Is it worth small claims court? I do not know where she moved to so I have no way of contacting her other than via phone.

    Follow your lease- Whether you can get in touch with her or not, take pictures of the damage; prepare a letter noting that her security deposit won't be returned because of the damage. Have the letter notarized. Repair your property. Then file a claim in small claims court & move on. 

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