How has the coronavirus affected real estate investors?

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Investor · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2013 · 643 posts · 280 votes
6y

@Tony Marcelle

Good question. As we head into August, I'm wondering what other landlords are experiencing with their tenants. 

We have 25 units in Pueblo, Colorado and 10 units in NE Ohio. We would consider most of them C-class properties. They are older houses and we have fixed them up. We have only 3 or 4 of the units on section 8. With all of that said, we have one tenant behind on rent in Colorado and one behind on rent in Ohio.

We do feel fortunate to have great tenants and property managers. But I still wonder what is happening. Did the majority of our tenants just manage to keep their jobs. Or did tenants use their stimulus checks and unemployment to pay rent and the worst is still in the future?

On the good side, we have found title companies much more willing to do online closings. We live overseas, so this is pretty key for us acquiring new properties and refinancing loans. Six months ago, many title companies we dealt with in Colorado and Ohio didn't want anything to do with online notaries or online closings. Now it seems much more common.

Mike

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  • Property Manager · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2016 · 63 posts · 27 votes
    6y

    Right now is has not affected my rental income. I guess ive been lucky. 

  • Greg ParkerBusiness Member
    Realtor, Contractor, Property Manager · Montgomery AL and Kowaliga, AL · Member since 2017 · 670 posts · 536 votes
    6y

    Nothing so far. But, diversity in your portfolio is always a good idea. STR folks may be experiencing some income loss. Not sure what's gonna happen with all these folks that decided to not pay rent. My tenants paid.

    My flip project is almost ready for sale.  Thankfully, the prices have not dropped, yet.

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  • Bessemer, AL · Member since 2014 · 581 posts · 32 votes
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  • Montgomery, AL Investor · Member since 2018 · 171 posts · 56 votes
    6y

    The Creator Giveth The Creator Taketh no virus formed against us shall prosper  

  • Property Manager · Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2016 · 63 posts · 27 votes
    6y

    @Tony Marcelle here in NC people have not lost jobs like maybe other States. Only ones with out a job are waitresses really. Everyone else is working. 

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    6y

    Here are our numbers for April:

    Mostly white-collar tenants: 100% paid

    Mostly blue-collar tenants: 78% fully paid, 4% partial paid, 18% nothing paid

    Mostly no-collar tenants: 60% fully paid, 13% partial paid, 26% nothing paid

  • Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2020 · 9 posts · 1 vote
    6y
    Originally posted by @Greg Parker:

    Nothing so far. But, diversity in your portfolio is always a good idea. STR folks may be experiencing some income loss. Not sure what's gonna happen with all these folks that decided to not pay rent. My tenants paid.

    My flip project is almost ready for sale.  Thankfully, the prices have not dropped, yet.

    Greg,

    Do you think we might see any pull backs here in Central Alabama on rents or a drop in housing prices? My gut tells me nothing drastic, I'm close to a few different lenders and they indicated the banks they work for are going to avoid foreclosures if possible. Granted I assume that is based on the idea that most of the state and jobs are back up and going within the next month.

    I currently house hack a home in Prattville that I purchased in 2018, I have been looking at houses the past two weeks. Plan is to purchase a house for me and my current roommates to move into and rent out my current house. I have a renter lined up if I can be in my new home by the end of July. I am torn between taking my time and playing a potential pull back for a good deal or finding something that meets my criteria and pulling the trigger. I plan to keep this second house as a rental too so I'm thinking I have a little wiggle room to pay a little more and not worry about a small short term pull back. Thoughts?

  • Greg ParkerBusiness Member
    Realtor, Contractor, Property Manager · Montgomery AL and Kowaliga, AL · Member since 2017 · 670 posts · 536 votes
    6y

    I agree with you.  No drastic changes will happen.  I still haven’t noticed any price drops in rent or sales.

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  • Gloria C.Pro Member
    So Cal · Member since 2018 · 107 posts · 20 votes
    6y

    @Greg Parker

    Would like to connect with you. I have 2 properties in Montgomery.

  • Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    Basic issue, from a broker perspective, is tenant payments in light of eviction moratorium.

    Lenders are getting really picky about underwriting and vacancies/collections.

    Owners, especially cheaper rent neighborhoods, are seeing collections down 20% from normal.

    My gut is that once we're past this and stabilize that demand should come back. Apts are still the best-looking CRE compared to alternatives (excepting maybe leased out industrial).

  • Investor · Grey Bruce Ontario · Member since 2020 · 11 posts · 5 votes
    6y

    I have entry level SFRs  in a blue collar area. So far only one tenant has asked for relief and she is catching up. I really appreciate the humor by @Charles M. and the Stats by @Drew Sygit.

    What does everyone feel will be the results of this over the next few months?

  • Greg ParkerBusiness Member
    Realtor, Contractor, Property Manager · Montgomery AL and Kowaliga, AL · Member since 2017 · 670 posts · 536 votes
    6y

    @Preston Wallace sorry I guess I just saw your question.  I have not noticed any pullback on prices or rents.

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  • Investor · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2013 · 643 posts · 280 votes
    6y

    @Tony Marcelle

    Good question. As we head into August, I'm wondering what other landlords are experiencing with their tenants. 

    We have 25 units in Pueblo, Colorado and 10 units in NE Ohio. We would consider most of them C-class properties. They are older houses and we have fixed them up. We have only 3 or 4 of the units on section 8. With all of that said, we have one tenant behind on rent in Colorado and one behind on rent in Ohio.

    We do feel fortunate to have great tenants and property managers. But I still wonder what is happening. Did the majority of our tenants just manage to keep their jobs. Or did tenants use their stimulus checks and unemployment to pay rent and the worst is still in the future?

    On the good side, we have found title companies much more willing to do online closings. We live overseas, so this is pretty key for us acquiring new properties and refinancing loans. Six months ago, many title companies we dealt with in Colorado and Ohio didn't want anything to do with online notaries or online closings. Now it seems much more common.

    Mike

  • Real Estate Agent · New Castle, CO · Member since 2014 · 84 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    @Tony Marcelle

    I only have two rentals right now and it hasn't affected me at all. I've got one SFR in Fort Collins, CO with the same tenants for the past 4 years (they just signed another year lease) and one townhome in New Castle, CO (turned over two months ago and people were knocking down the door for an application). In my markets, I feel that the demand for housing is so high that renters aren't willing to move right now because 1. they don't want the landlord/PM letting a bunch of people in their space and 2. they are unsure if they'll be able to find another suitable rental.

  • Remington LymanBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Tony Marcelle:

    How bad has it affected your real estate business?

     I have seen the demand for real estate increase. Everyone is trying to hedge against inflation. I am seeing a lot of cash offers in my market of Columbus, Ohio

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    6y

    We’d thought I’d be interesting to crunch some numbers to see how far behind tenant are. As the numbers show below, the percentage of tenants less than 30 days behind has held fairly steady during the eviction moratorium. Surprisingly, those more then 30 days, but less than 60 days behind, has declined a bit (ignoring July). As expected, those more than 90 days behind has increased, actually doubling since April.

    April

    May

    June

    July 15th

    < 30 Days

    72%

    73%

    75%

    67%

    30<60 Days

    16%

    11%

    11%

    16%

    60<90 Days

    7%

    8%

    4%

    5%

    90+ Days

    5%

    8%

    10%

    11%

  • Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2015 · 344 posts · 258 votes
    6y

    I agree with @Remington Lyman regarding Columbus for sure. As with a lot of places, everyone was holding their breath. But, it seems prices have remained high or higher, with relatively short days on market.

    Regarding rentals, I don’t think collections have been much lower than usual. Columbus does have a pretty diverse economy, though, so perhaps that is helping.

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