Amateur looking to be legitimate income

Amateur looking to be legitimate income

Member since 2025 · 1 post · 1 vote

I have slowly bought 5 properties since 2009 and am a Financially conservative investor, but am at the point that I realize I need to get more aggressive and grow. I'm look for advice from those who essentially went from zero to hero, and how they were able to find and purchase all their properties without overpaying for them. What did you do for financing after you ran out of cash? How do you have your LLCs and trusts structured for liability and minimal tax preparation costs?

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Attorney · Member since 2025 · 65 posts · 102 votes
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As far as the LLC side, it is important to separate each property into its own LLC. Part of asset protection is compartmentalization. If you put all of your eggs, or in the case rental properties, into one basket, then you risk losing them. Each LLC should be set up in the state where the property is located. This gives you the ability to enforce your rights in that state since the entity is recognized, such as eviction. To provide protection against personal liability, it is best to have a holding company own the LLCs instead of you personally. A WY LLC works really well for this, considering its strong protections against personal creditors.

You would not have to file any extra tax returns with this structure. You can have the LLCs be disregarded to you tax-wise. This is passive income that can just flow down to your personal return.

Note: This information is for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. No attorney-client, fiduciary, or professional relationship is established through this communication.


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  • Attorney · Member since 2025 · 65 posts · 102 votes
    1y

    As far as the LLC side, it is important to separate each property into its own LLC. Part of asset protection is compartmentalization. If you put all of your eggs, or in the case rental properties, into one basket, then you risk losing them. Each LLC should be set up in the state where the property is located. This gives you the ability to enforce your rights in that state since the entity is recognized, such as eviction. To provide protection against personal liability, it is best to have a holding company own the LLCs instead of you personally. A WY LLC works really well for this, considering its strong protections against personal creditors.

    You would not have to file any extra tax returns with this structure. You can have the LLCs be disregarded to you tax-wise. This is passive income that can just flow down to your personal return.

    Note: This information is for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. No attorney-client, fiduciary, or professional relationship is established through this communication.


  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    For financing and scaling quicker BRRR has become the go to strategy. It is way harder compared to 5 years ago. BRRR essentially recycles your capital so you can do more deals rather then putting 20-30% down and going that route. It can still be done but simmer cashflow and some deals you are leaving money in. I would first ask why do you want to scale and grow fast? Having 5 properties bought conservatively would put you at a good place so increasing leverage and risk might not be worth it for you. Market is tough with rates and prices so adding more risk for the sake of growing isn't for every situation. One other thought is doing a 1031 to roll the equity into better or larger properties. This is the easiest way for you. With buying starting in 2009 you'll have a ton of equity to roll into more.

  • Melissa JusticeBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · Phoenix, AZ · Member since 2024 · 518 posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    @Seth Meyer,

    Congrats on getting five properties under your belt, especially starting back in 2009. That kind of steady, thoughtful growth puts you ahead of most. And now that you're shifting gears from “preserve” to “scale,” you're asking the exact right questions.

    From Conservative to Scalable: What Worked for Others
    Investors who went from “zero to hero” often did three things:

    Got creative with financing (more on that below)

    Built strong deal pipelines—usually by focusing on one or two key markets

    Leveraged systems and people to reduce friction (PMs, turnkey providers, lenders, etc.)

    After Running Out of Cash – What Works:
    HELOCs or cash-out refinances on existing rentals (you may be sitting on untapped equity)

    DSCR loans: No personal income needed—based on property cash flow. Huge for scaling.

    Seller financing or subject-to deals when rates make sense

    Partnering on deals to share capital and risk

    Also worth noting: if you want to stay more passive while scaling, some investors successfully grow with turnkey properties. You still get appreciation, cash flow, and tax benefits—without the upfront renovation capital or time commitment.

    LLC & Trust Setup – Keep It Simple but Smart:
    Here’s what many cost-conscious investors do:

    One umbrella LLC to start (especially if you're self-managing or using one PM across markets)

    Gradually separate LLCs per market or cluster as portfolio grows

    Use a land trust for privacy, if needed, with the LLC as beneficiary

    File taxes through SMLLCs (single-member LLCs) or partnerships to avoid double-taxation

    Consider a holding company if you're scaling aggressively or investing with others

    Always worth running past a CPA or attorney—but the goal is simple, not fancy, and optimized for tax and liability.

    You're at a powerful crossroads—you've built the foundation, now it's just about picking the right vehicle to accelerate growth. Whether it's BRRRR, turnkey, or something hybrid, happy to share what's working in today's market or examples of how other investors are scaling strategically.

    Wishing you much success!

    Melissa Justice

    Investment Strategist at Rent to Retirement

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