What are some good tips for negotiating solid real estate deals

What are some good tips for negotiating solid real estate deals

Real Estate Investor · Chester, VA · Member since 2008 · 41 posts · 1 vote

How do u get a person to sell when they dont want to ?

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  • Joshua D.Pro Member
    BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    19y

    Good point, James.

    Keepitmovin -
    If someone doesn't want to sell, why force them or manipulate them to do so?

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 9 votes
    19y

    Hey there keepitmovin,

    I too would have to agree with James I dont mean to be blunt but the way you put it out there suggest illegal matters! So what if someone does not want to sell there house move on with life and go to the next one. But you might want to listen to James the RE market is taking a major crap and you should capitolize on foreclosures right now! Thanks for your time and have a wonderful biggerpockets day!

  • Member since 2008 · 27 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    If they truly don't want to sell, the only way to get them to sell is illegally.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 9 votes
    18y

    Hey there Phil,

    What exactly are you trying to say cause from my point of view the way i read it you were suggesting to do it illegally! Can you explain?

  • Member since 2008 · 27 posts · 0 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "loki005":
    [b]Hey there Phil,

    What exactly are you trying to say cause from my point of view the way i read it you were suggesting to do it illegally! Can you explain?[/b]

    I was absolutely NOT suggesting to do anything illegally and apologize if it seemed like it. I was saying that you simply cannot "make" someone do what they do not want to do.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 9 votes
    18y

    Oh ok Phil just wanted to make sure, thank you for your time and have a wonderful biggerpockets day!!

    :groovy:

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · OH · Member since 2008 · 553 posts · 24 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "keepitmovin":
    How do u get a person to sell when they dont want to ?

    If you really want the property offer them more than what it is worth and keep going up until they say yes. Everything has a price.

  • Joshua D.Pro Member
    BiggerPockets Founder · HI · Member since 2008 · 16k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "Ohio Realtor":
    If you really want the property offer them more than what it is worth and keep going up until they say yes. Everything has a price.

    Good point, Jim. Sometimes the obvious slips my mind.
  • Real Estate Investor · London · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 74 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "keepitmovin":
    How do u get a person to sell when they dont want to ?

    If you are an investor you need to focus on motivated sellers.

    If they are not motivated you are wasting your time on them.

    If you really have to have 1 specific property (maybe for a larger project) them you need to figure out what will motivate the owner to sell.

    John Corey

  • Member since 2008 · 117 posts · 3 votes
    18y

    Thats why investors make so many offers before one is accepted. Because we cannot make them sell on our terms all the time. So just keep moving along and looking at something different.

  • Real Estate Investor · Bethlehem, PA · Member since 2008 · 48 posts · 1 vote
    18y

    Find their motivations......money, other options, etc are common

  • Member since 2008 · 9 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    If there is no motivation to sell, unfortunately it is time to move on to the next. Good Luck

  • Real Estate Investor · Chester, VA · Member since 2008 · 41 posts · 1 vote
    18y

    lol... who said anything about strong arming people hahaha.. u guys have a creative imagination hahaha, anyway i meant more in the negotiations process lol....

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Hallandale, FL · Member since 2008 · 27 posts · 0 votes
    18y
    Originally posted by "keepitmovin":
    lol... who said anything about strong arming people hahaha.. u guys have a creative imagination hahaha, anyway i meant more in the negotiations process lol....

    Considering housing situation we still keep our sense of humor. That is not bad, what do you think?))
  • Real Estate Investor · Chester, VA · Member since 2008 · 41 posts · 1 vote
    18y

    your right about that lol...., but all jokes to the side the negoiation process now Ive still haven't done my first deal I've been darn close 2 times and both times the buys back out or because i was working with a partner they wanted to take control and screwed the deal up, hence my last deal i was working on a duplex state assisted at 20,000, and the seller wanted 15,000 for the property. and She wanted to sell as for the taxes it was only 400 under which is not bad, so my mentor at the time said he wanted to speak with her being that he had 3 yrs of exp. i let him talk to her and as i listened to him he to me anyway he sounded untrustworthy. thru out the whole process. but the deal fell thru she stopped answering his phone calls due to his fast talking and pushiness to close the deal. anyway the AVR for the duplex was 175,000 -15000 for the building 400 for taxes, and 25,000 to 30,000 in repair cost and another 5000 for finders and negation fees for me. Now if u do the math it was a huge chunk of change for the buyer left over well worth the time to listen to seller and see what they wanted, but this guy tried to push the price down lower most deals have a 15 to 20% return for the investor this was well over 20%.
    PS. also does anyone have any good assignment contracts

  • Real Estate Investor · Chester, VA · Member since 2008 · 41 posts · 1 vote
    18y

    what are some technics to losen the seller up

  • Real Estate Investor · Brooklyn, NY · Member since 2008 · 11 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    i once heard... " a person convinced his or her own will is of the same opinion still" since then, i have decided to let people make their own choices on everything they want to do

  • Real Estate Investor · ID · Member since 2008 · 101 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    type in negotiaiton in the search engine box. there is some good stuff. and and have you heard of TOM HOPKINS he has good stuff as well.

  • Real Estate Investor · OH · Member since 2008 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    18y

    Forget the negotiations; the slick talk; the tricks and the gimmicks. I have bought dozens of rentals over the past 5 years and I find that people want the buyer to be honest and trustworthy. Using a bunch of slick guru negotiating tricks is NOT the way to gain a reputation of honesty and trustworthiness.

    I am just honest with the seller. After looking at the property, I tell them that I am in business to make money and ask them what is the least they can take. If they say a number that works for me, I say - I'll take it. If their number is above mine, I'll say $XXX is the most I can pay. If they can't accept that, then I tell them to call me if they change their mind.

    No silly negotiating techniques; no imaginary partners; no high pressure tactics; no tricks or gimmicks - just a little honesty and integrity.

    Good Luck,

    Mike

  • Contractor · Bronx, NY · Member since 2008 · 22 posts · 1 vote
    18y

    You can always follow up with the owner every 3-6 months. You never know what may come up in their lives that will force them to sell.
    You can also put different scenerios in front of them so they can see that they are better off selling it now. Eventually they'll give in

  • Member since 2008 · 55 posts · 0 votes
    18y

    that was hard. Motivation and patience if you really wanted to win.but why would you force someone to sell if they dont feel to??? Find someone who is willing.

  • Real Estate Investor · Oroville, CA · Member since 2008 · 107 posts · 2 votes
    18y

    Try this demonstration.
    Hold out both of your hands in front of you ....now pick a hand .....which did you pick............

    Why didn't you coose to not pick a hand?
    Answer you weren't given that option.

    Ever hear of the alternate of choice close? That is what you just experienced.

    Write 2 offers that show approximately the same thing then show both offers. Simply ask whicfh one will work for you and shut up till they answer.

  • Real Estate Investor · Oroville, CA · Member since 2008 · 107 posts · 2 votes
    18y

    What this does is increase your percentage of closes.

    It makes it easier for the client to decide.
    It takes the pressure off and assumes a close. The psychology of this method is worth thousands of dollars a month.

  • Real Estate Investor · Colorado Springs, CO · Member since 2008 · 108 posts · 9 votes
    18y

    Tickler system, 70% of my business has come after my first contact. You've got to have a great tickler system automated!

  • Real Estate Investor · Oroville, CA · Member since 2008 · 107 posts · 2 votes
    18y

    I agree whole heartedly Jim.

    Tickler system
    But first you have to start doing some kind of follow up any follow up is better than no follow up.

    The phone is my friend.

    The phone is my friend.

    What is your system for tickling Jim?

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