NYC Out of State Investors

NYC Out of State Investors

Investor · New York CIty · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 18 votes

Hey everyone,

I live and work in Manhattan and have been interested in getting my first out-of-state rental for over a year without action. My focus has shifted a bunch of times between FL or maybe more local like the poconos. Anyone in a similar situation and interested in meeting up for drinks / coffee, after work / weekends? I figure with more people in the same situation, we can help each other out and have some sort of accountability.

Thanks!

Eric

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Drew SygitBusiness Member
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
4y

Metro Detroit offers many options for meeting the 1% Rule and relatively high ROI.

Follow our "Deep Dive" series we're doing about Metro Detroit cities and City of Detroit Neighborhoods: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

The two most common mistakes we see investors make, over & over again, are:

1) Not understanding and running their own ROI numbers

2) Not having a clear understanding of the type of asset a property is

In our opinion, your best team member should be your Property Management Company (PMC). They have to deal with any property you buy every month until you sell or terminate them. Everyone else on your team will be transaction-based and not really involved after a purchase.

We're in the Metro Detroit area, so you may want to follow our blog here on BP, but at least read the following posts:

How to “Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”: https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

In our experience you will need to:

1) Learn to "Maintain to the Neighborhood", not your personal standards

2) Tenant-Proof everything you can

  • Hard surface flooring, not carpeting (too easy to trash)
  • Same basic paint for everything
  • No garbage disposals for them to break
  • Only spring-type doorstops also with plate on the wall
  • Glue rubber mats under sinks to prevent water damage
  • Sheet aluminum on walls around stovetops, for easy grease removal
  • Towel racks - screw 1x3 to wall studs, then screw rack to that
  • Install low-profile downspout ext, not aluminum that always disappear
  • Plan on cleaning gutters and leaves up in the fall as tenants won't
  • Avoid garage door openers

3) Have a great application screening process:

  • Check credit for evictions & convictions, utility collections
  • Focus on employment/income stability
  • Require bank or debit card statement - you'll be surprised what they spend their money on!
  • Make surprise visit to their current home to see how they treat it - that's how they'll treat yours!
  • Deliberately have a few challenges in your screening process - it will weed out "entitlement mentality" problems

4) Allow payment plans, but create system to track when payments due, so they don't keep falling further behind

  • You will need to call them on due dates or they will fall further behind
  • Be prepared to give a strong NO when asked if you will change rent due dates to "make it easier" for tenants to pay rent based upon their SSI or paycheck dates. This shows total lack of budgeting and is a sign they will only fall further behind with more excuses.

5) Have a defined eviction process, but allow 3-5 days of flexibility for inevitable slow-pays.

6) Find handymen that live in an area only 1 Class higher than your property. Sending a Class A handyman to a Class C or D property will waste your money. Send Class B to C and Class C to D. They will also get along better with the tenants.

Let us know what questions we can answer for you.

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  • Developer · NY · Member since 2021 · 131 posts · 106 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Ritwik Rudra:

    Hey all - first time poster in BP and I live in Manhattan - just about to purchase my first property outside of NYC and would love to meet up and meet people if this is happening again in March, any plans for that?


     Yes there is!  We are busy planning the next event for Wednesday April 6th.  Once Eric and I book the location, we'll let you and everyone else know.  Talk to you soon

  • Investor · Yonkers, NY · Member since 2019 · 101 posts · 44 votes
    4y

    I’m in Westchester also interested in remote investing OOS. Following!

  • Investor · New York CIty · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 18 votes
    4y

    Hey Everyone,

    We'll be at Whiskey Trader (77 W 55th St) on Wed 4/6 starting at 6/630. If you're interested, ping @Andrew Jennings Freerks or myself so we have a sense of the size of the group

    Thanks!

    Eric

  • Real Estate Agent · Daytona Beach, FL · Member since 2019 · 37 posts · 15 votes
    4y

    I grew up in Chinatown Manhattan and currently live/invest in the Daytona Beach Florida area. The area is rapidly growing with the supporting from the local government and large investors. I would love to chat if you want more information

  • Investor · Manhattan · Member since 2018 · 55 posts · 35 votes
    4y

    @Eric Ng I would like to attend Wednesdays meeting. 

  • Jersey City, NJ · Member since 2021 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Akshay Nihalaney:

    @Eric Ng, @Andrew Jennings Freerks - 6pm on 17th works.


     Hello from Jersey city. I would love to connect as well. I work in the Bronx. Please let me know when are you meeting again :)

  • Jersey City, NJ · Member since 2021 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Andrew Jennings Freerks:

    Hello everyone,

    I hope you are enjoying this beautiful spring day.  Eric and I will be hosting another happy hour on Wednesday April 6th from 6-9pm.  Location TDB but somewhere close to Midtown.  We'll let you know once we identify a spot, and as always feel free to invite any of your friends who are interested in changing their lives through real estate.

    Talk to you soon and have a great weekend.

    April 6 sounds good. Please keep us posted.
  • Jersey City, NJ · Member since 2021 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Eric Ng:

    Hey Everyone,

    We'll be at Whiskey Trader (77 W 55th St) on Wed 4/6 starting at 6/630. If you're interested, ping @Andrew Jennings Freerks or myself so we have a sense of the size of the group

    Thanks!

    Eric

    Interested!

  • Jersey City, NJ · Member since 2021 · 5 posts · 2 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Eric Ng:

    Hey Everyone,

    We'll be at Whiskey Trader (77 W 55th St) on Wed 4/6 starting at 6/630. If you're interested, ping @Andrew Jennings Freerks or myself so we have a sense of the size of the group

    Thanks!

    Eric

    Interested!

  • Developer · NY · Member since 2021 · 131 posts · 106 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Susan Lee:
    Quote from @Andrew Jennings Freerks:

    Hello everyone,

    I hope you are enjoying this beautiful spring day.  Eric and I will be hosting another happy hour on Wednesday April 6th from 6-9pm.  Location TDB but somewhere close to Midtown.  We'll let you know once we identify a spot, and as always feel free to invite any of your friends who are interested in changing their lives through real estate.

    Talk to you soon and have a great weekend.

    Hi Andrew, I would love to join. Please keep me posted. Thanks!
  • Contractor · Ruskin, FL · Member since 2016 · 20 posts · 7 votes
    4y

    If you guys want boots on the ground in FL. I would definitely, be up for it. I have years building, flips, and spec homes. Admittedly haven't done anything since pre-2008. I am currently a home inspector in the Tampa Bay area which is booming currently. Let me know if I can help.

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