Rental Property Investor · SF Bay Area · Member since 2012 · 25 posts · 24 votes
Hi guys,
I am looking to start a BRRRR project later this year in Memphis, but wanted to find lenders who can cash-out refinance. I spoke with one who can refinance after 12 months, but I prefer lenders that can do it after 6 months.
This will be a SFH rental property and a conventional loan. Any recommendations/suggestions on specific lenders or brokers would be greatly appreciated!
Hey Peter- I am from San Jose were practically neighbors.
1) are you hoping for a cash out based on ARV?
2) please tell me this isn't your first Memphis property and that you plan to manage it remotely...
3) you are looking for 30y fixed?
4) no local banks are going to want to touch a cash out refi where you get more 75% ltv where v=purchase price or purchase+rehab. Landmark, Ibank, Metro/Ren, First TN... They will all practically call security if you even ask. Sidenote- I do not think any of them will lend to out of state investors either.
5) I've been calling national lenders for a while and so far it looks like the big name brand banks won't do it either- Wells Fargo, BofA, Chase... and that the sort of no branches most people don't know who they are banks are hit and miss.
If you find something please let me know ASAP!
Also I am a west coast person who moved out here to crush this market and it is very much not what the podcasts make you think- there is money to be made- but much harder than they make it sound. Feel free to reach out and ask questions direct.
I was just about to recommend that you reach out to @Jackson Long but he already responded (he and I have been talking about this topic for a while). The first bank that I found which would do this is Bancorp South. It appears they will loan up to the amount that you put into the property (i.e. show invoices from the contractor + the purchase price) on a 5 year fixed, 20-year amortizing loan. I recommend talking to Brandon Bryant at Bancorp. That being said, I have not used that product.
However, I have done a delayed financing cash out refinance with Landmark. We bought a house for 60k using funds from a line of credit, renovated it for 15 and it appraised at 100. Unfortunately, Landmark would only lend up to the original purchase amount or 80% of appraised value, whichever was lower. That left a lot of equity tied up in the house.
@Peter Cung@Stephen Akindona Just Reading up on the lenders you used for your cash out refinances and wanted to connect and talk how the process was. I am trying to figure out the a lender for one of my properties in Memphis.
Hi @Aj Parikh. I got in touch with @Stephen Akindona's lender recommendations and both are good contacts to work with. I ultimately went with another that I had an existing relationship with. My last deal I did a rate and term refinance to pay off a private loan 3 months after acquisition. Purchase included the rehab amount on the HUD.
For a Memphis BRRRR SFH, ask specifically about delayed financing / short-seasoning cash-out versus true "no seasoning on full ARV" — a lot of desks that advertise 6 months still cap you at cost basis (purchase + documented rehab) until you hit their seasoning. DSCR cash-out in the ~75% LTV class is usually the easier scale path than forcing a conventional 12-month clock, especially if you vest in an LLC. Get two term sheets that spell out seasoning, LTV basis, and prepay in writing before you buy the next one.
You're looking in the right market for BRRRR, and since you specifically mentioned Memphis, I'd recommend reaching out to Tim Smith at CrossCountry Mortgage or Ryan Guess at Northpointe Bank and discussing exactly what you’re trying to accomplish on the refinance side. Feel free to reach out if I can help at all, talk soon!
Great question — and Memphis is one of the best markets to BRRRR in, so you're looking in the right place. The key distinction is delayed financing vs. true no-seasoning cash-out: a lot of lenders advertise "6-month" but still cap you at your cost basis (purchase + documented rehab) until you hit their seasoning clock. Ask every lender to spell out three things in writing before you buy: seasoning requirement, whether the LTV is based on cost or ARV, and prepayment terms. DSCR cash-out around 75% LTV is usually the smoother path for scaling than fighting a conventional 12-month clock, especially if you hold in an LLC. Get two term sheets side by side — the differences will surprise you.