Pace Morby Mentorship
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Investor · Punta Gorda, FL · Member since 2010 · 151 posts · 127 votes
4y@Chida Truong I am posting the private message that I sent to you with my thoughts about Pace Morby's Sub To Mentorship because @Joe S. seems to have an opinion on a mentorship that he is not part of - but I am. Hope this helps those of you who have questions about Sub To:
This program is worth every dime....IF you put in the work to find deals. The community Pace has built is amazing. There are 'daily dials' that are hosted by some of the group leaders and you practice cold calling under different scenarios (seller who has no pain, seller wants too much down, seller says they're too old to do owner finance/refi, etc).
There are daily Zooms on a variety of topics as wells just Q & A where Pace will answer any questions you have on anything you might be working on, etc. He's brought on his own attorney, another business owner who ensures if the 'due on sale' clause is triggered when buying subto that he takes care of all the paperwork with the bank and title if needed, etc.
The knowledge sharing is like no other. Pace is ALWAYS giving.... information, templates, scripts, free legal contracts he paid for that his attorneys have drawn up, etc. This is not one of those mentorships where you join and you never hear from the 'subject matter expert' again. I have Pace's phone number and his email and have corresponded with him through both.
This is a genuine mentorship that is more like family. You have a question that can't wait? Post it in the Sub To Facebook group and you will get numerous replies to help you. Found a deal but not sure what to do? - squad up with someone else in the subto group and they will make sure you successfully close it. One of the biggest things that Pace teaches is to give more than you take in the group and believe me, so many students offer to help those that have not closed their first deal yet, share information/lessons learned and also share their successes as well as their failures - because you can learn from both.
Also, this is a LIFETIME membership in a group that supports each other. Everyone in this mentorship wants you to succeed.
If you do decide to join, you can put my name and my email for $400 off the cost of the membership. Inbox me for the link as I don't think that is allowed here.
@Joe S. bigger and wiser than his time? You're kidding right? You think A & E would give him and Jamil their own show if they didn't know what they are doing? Check out season 1 called Triple Digit Flips.
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- Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes2y
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Taylor Nelson:
Pace Morby's mentorship is a transformative experience that transcends traditional mentor-student dynamics. It feels like joining a close-knit family where collaboration and support are paramount. The wealth of information shared is nothing short of mind-expanding, covering diverse aspects of the subject matter.
What sets this mentorship apart is not just the depth of knowledge but the genuine camaraderie among members. It creates an environment where everyone is invested in each other's success. The mentorship provides practical insights, actionable strategies, and a roadmap to navigate the complexities of the field.
Every session feels like an invaluable masterclass, with Pace Morby's wealth of experience shining through. The mentorship doesn't just meet expectations; it exceeds them, making the investment not only worth every penny but also an indispensable part of one's professional growth. If you're seeking a mentorship that goes beyond conventional boundaries and offers a holistic, supportive community, Pace Morby's program is undoubtedly a game-changer.
Taylor Nelson
LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you.
(always comes from new accounts / first post)"LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you."
@Cody L.: Good one. LolI saw in the facebook group this post... #transformative #invaluable.
Next up: How to chew gum and walk at the same time.... IF anyone has the link for that training and the discount code, let me know please.
7e investments53 Reviews - 2yJay HinrichsBusiness MemberReal Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
Quote from @Account Closed:
Next up: How to chew gum and walk at the same time. HehehQuote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Taylor Nelson:
Pace Morby's mentorship is a transformative experience that transcends traditional mentor-student dynamics. It feels like joining a close-knit family where collaboration and support are paramount. The wealth of information shared is nothing short of mind-expanding, covering diverse aspects of the subject matter.
What sets this mentorship apart is not just the depth of knowledge but the genuine camaraderie among members. It creates an environment where everyone is invested in each other's success. The mentorship provides practical insights, actionable strategies, and a roadmap to navigate the complexities of the field.
Every session feels like an invaluable masterclass, with Pace Morby's wealth of experience shining through. The mentorship doesn't just meet expectations; it exceeds them, making the investment not only worth every penny but also an indispensable part of one's professional growth. If you're seeking a mentorship that goes beyond conventional boundaries and offers a holistic, supportive community, Pace Morby's program is undoubtedly a game-changer.
Taylor Nelson
LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you.
(always comes from new accounts / first post)"LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you."
@Cody L.: Good one. LolI saw in the facebook group this post... #transformative #invaluable.
Next up: How to chew gum and walk at the same time.... IF anyone has the link for that training and the discount code, let me know please.
its just chat GT or whatever they call it. My wife used it to write an add for one of my Tesla's I am selling ( new truck is here ) and it writes a decent add I have to say. - Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes2yThe real estate version of Mein Kampf.
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Account Closed:
@Nate Marshall: Is this copy & paste or is it AI?Quote from @Taylor Nelson:
Pace Morby's mentorship is a transformative experience that transcends traditional mentor-student dynamics. It feels like joining a close-knit family where collaboration and support are paramount. The wealth of information shared is nothing short of mind-expanding, covering diverse aspects of the subject matter.
What sets this mentorship apart is not just the depth of knowledge but the genuine camaraderie among members. It creates an environment where everyone is invested in each other's success. The mentorship provides practical insights, actionable strategies, and a roadmap to navigate the complexities of the field.
Every session feels like an invaluable masterclass, with Pace Morby's wealth of experience shining through. The mentorship doesn't just meet expectations; it exceeds them, making the investment not only worth every penny but also an indispensable part of one's professional growth. If you're seeking a mentorship that goes beyond conventional boundaries and offers a holistic, supportive community, Pace Morby's program is undoubtedly a game-changer.
Taylor Nelson
I cannot wait for BP to give them another book deal on how to create a transformative and life altering community.
- Member since 2023 · 5 posts · 4 votes2y
I'm getting Amway vibes...
I can't lie, I'm interested in Subto Though. Anyone want to join memberships? Or find a way to creative finance the tuition some how?
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes2y
Quote from @Tevin Gladney:
I'm getting Amway vibes...
I can't lie, I'm interested in Subto Though. Anyone want to join memberships? Or find a way to creative finance the tuition some how?
I can almost picture the sham wow guy.
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes2y
Quote from @Account Closed:
@Tevin Gladney: Mistakes with Subject To are very unforgining. I've seen a lot of bad information come out of the "Subto community".Quote from @Tevin Gladney:
I'm getting Amway vibes...
I can't lie, I'm interested in Subto Though. Anyone want to join memberships? Or find a way to creative finance the tuition some how?
Nothing but bad info IMO. It would be like listening to guys in death row telling people how to get away with murder.
- Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes2y
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Next up: How to chew gum and walk at the same time. HehehQuote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Taylor Nelson:
Pace Morby's mentorship is a transformative experience that transcends traditional mentor-student dynamics. It feels like joining a close-knit family where collaboration and support are paramount. The wealth of information shared is nothing short of mind-expanding, covering diverse aspects of the subject matter.
What sets this mentorship apart is not just the depth of knowledge but the genuine camaraderie among members. It creates an environment where everyone is invested in each other's success. The mentorship provides practical insights, actionable strategies, and a roadmap to navigate the complexities of the field.
Every session feels like an invaluable masterclass, with Pace Morby's wealth of experience shining through. The mentorship doesn't just meet expectations; it exceeds them, making the investment not only worth every penny but also an indispensable part of one's professional growth. If you're seeking a mentorship that goes beyond conventional boundaries and offers a holistic, supportive community, Pace Morby's program is undoubtedly a game-changer.
Taylor Nelson
LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you.
(always comes from new accounts / first post)"LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you."
@Cody L.: Good one. LolI saw in the facebook group this post... #transformative #invaluable.
Next up: How to chew gum and walk at the same time.... IF anyone has the link for that training and the discount code, let me know please.
its just chat GT or whatever they call it. My wife used it to write an add for one of my Tesla's I am selling ( new truck is here ) and it writes a decent add I have to say.I just got my truck! I love it. But we also have a "Y" and an "S". I think I'm going to give my "S" to my operations manager and just keep the Y and the truck.
- Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes2y
Quote from @Tevin Gladney:
I'm getting Amway vibes...
I can't lie, I'm interested in Subto Though. Anyone want to join memberships? Or find a way to creative finance the tuition some how?
I was doing "subto" before it was a catchy topic for gurus. You don't need a membership. It's how I did many of my first deals. It's not complex: Say you find a house for $200k. The owner owes $150k. If you buy it, he'll walk with $50k (after paying off his loan). Instead you offer him $50k and take over his note.
There are a lot of different ways to do it. You could do a loan with him for $150k. So you pay him, he pays the note. Or you pay the note directly. Or in some cases you may pay him less than the $50k, do a loan with him for more than $150k, and pay him on the larger amount while he pays his lower amount to the bank.
But now matter how you structure there are a few risks. The biggest (that people talk about) is 'due on sale'. Which means if the main lender finds out the property has been sold, they can call the loan due.
Another thing people worry about is what if you don't pay the loan? The seller is protected there by being able to take the property back if you don't pay (they'd obviously have to keep the loan current, but it would be their house and they'd keep whatever was put down)
I'm not making a case to do it or not. What I am making a case for is if you want to do it, you don't have to pay some goofy guru scammer. If I could do it with zero resources available to me, anyone else can. - 2yJay HinrichsBusiness MemberReal Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Next up: How to chew gum and walk at the same time. HehehQuote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Taylor Nelson:
Pace Morby's mentorship is a transformative experience that transcends traditional mentor-student dynamics. It feels like joining a close-knit family where collaboration and support are paramount. The wealth of information shared is nothing short of mind-expanding, covering diverse aspects of the subject matter.
What sets this mentorship apart is not just the depth of knowledge but the genuine camaraderie among members. It creates an environment where everyone is invested in each other's success. The mentorship provides practical insights, actionable strategies, and a roadmap to navigate the complexities of the field.
Every session feels like an invaluable masterclass, with Pace Morby's wealth of experience shining through. The mentorship doesn't just meet expectations; it exceeds them, making the investment not only worth every penny but also an indispensable part of one's professional growth. If you're seeking a mentorship that goes beyond conventional boundaries and offers a holistic, supportive community, Pace Morby's program is undoubtedly a game-changer.
Taylor Nelson
LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you.
(always comes from new accounts / first post)"LOL this reads like a hostage video. Blink twice if you need someone to help you."
@Cody L.: Good one. LolI saw in the facebook group this post... #transformative #invaluable.
Next up: How to chew gum and walk at the same time.... IF anyone has the link for that training and the discount code, let me know please.
its just chat GT or whatever they call it. My wife used it to write an add for one of my Tesla's I am selling ( new truck is here ) and it writes a decent add I have to say.I just got my truck! I love it. But we also have a "Y" and an "S". I think I'm going to give my "S" to my operations manager and just keep the Y and the truck.
I Am going to wait awhile to order mine.. I dont want or need FSD and if I order it now you have to buy it.. I have 2 model X and a Y so I am ok waiting .. I love these cars I get in a cash vehicle and they are so slow :) - Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes2y
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Tevin Gladney:
I'm getting Amway vibes...
I can't lie, I'm interested in Subto Though. Anyone want to join memberships? Or find a way to creative finance the tuition some how?
I was doing "subto" before it was a catchy topic for gurus. You don't need a membership. It's how I did many of my first deals. It's not complex: Say you find a house for $200k. The owner owes $150k. If you buy it, he'll walk with $50k (after paying off his loan). Instead you offer him $50k and take over his note.
There are a lot of different ways to do it. You could do a loan with him for $150k. So you pay him, he pays the note. Or you pay the note directly. Or in some cases you may pay him less than the $50k, do a loan with him for more than $150k, and pay him on the larger amount while he pays his lower amount to the bank.
But now matter how you structure there are a few risks. The biggest (that people talk about) is 'due on sale'. Which means if the main lender finds out the property has been sold, they can call the loan due.
Another thing people worry about is what if you don't pay the loan? The seller is protected there by being able to take the property back if you don't pay (they'd obviously have to keep the loan current, but it would be their house and they'd keep whatever was put down)
I'm not making a case to do it or not. What I am making a case for is if you want to do it, you don't have to pay some goofy guru scammer. If I could do it with zero resources available to me, anyone else can.Your comment: "The seller is protected there by being able to take the property back if you don't pay"
Actually, you must be thinking of a different technique. In a Subject To, it's simply taking over payments. There is no Deed of Trust to use to force taking the property back.
In a Subject To, the seller has absolutely no protection.I've always looked at 'sub to' = 'subject to' = 'subject to the existing first lien debt'. So you're buying a property 'normally'. It's just understood by the buyer, seller, title (and title will reflect) that the first lien isn't being paid off. So not sure where we're disagreeing.
- 2yJay HinrichsBusiness MemberReal Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Cody L.:
Quote from @Tevin Gladney:
I'm getting Amway vibes...
I can't lie, I'm interested in Subto Though. Anyone want to join memberships? Or find a way to creative finance the tuition some how?
I was doing "subto" before it was a catchy topic for gurus. You don't need a membership. It's how I did many of my first deals. It's not complex: Say you find a house for $200k. The owner owes $150k. If you buy it, he'll walk with $50k (after paying off his loan). Instead you offer him $50k and take over his note.
There are a lot of different ways to do it. You could do a loan with him for $150k. So you pay him, he pays the note. Or you pay the note directly. Or in some cases you may pay him less than the $50k, do a loan with him for more than $150k, and pay him on the larger amount while he pays his lower amount to the bank.
But now matter how you structure there are a few risks. The biggest (that people talk about) is 'due on sale'. Which means if the main lender finds out the property has been sold, they can call the loan due.
Another thing people worry about is what if you don't pay the loan? The seller is protected there by being able to take the property back if you don't pay (they'd obviously have to keep the loan current, but it would be their house and they'd keep whatever was put down)
I'm not making a case to do it or not. What I am making a case for is if you want to do it, you don't have to pay some goofy guru scammer. If I could do it with zero resources available to me, anyone else can.Your comment: "The seller is protected there by being able to take the property back if you don't pay"
Actually, you must be thinking of a different technique. In a Subject To, it's simply taking over payments. There is no Deed of Trust to use to force taking the property back.
In a Subject To, the seller has absolutely no protection.I've always looked at 'sub to' = 'subject to' = 'subject to the existing first lien debt'. So you're buying a property 'normally'. It's just understood by the buyer, seller, title (and title will reflect) that the first lien isn't being paid off. So not sure where we're disagreeing.
Cody the point Ken is making is that in a straight Subject to title has Transferred to Buyer and then buyer makes payments.. Now if buyer fails to make payments it would be good for Buyer to deed it back to the original seller. But in many cases that simply does not happen you get bad actors and they rip the rents ( because the loan is not in their name etc). Been around a lot of that mainly on smaller SFR deals. The other technique Ken is talking about is doing a wrap or in CA you have a really cool debt instrument called a All inclusive Deed of trust.. And if the buyer defaults The seller can foreclose and take title back. - Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes2yThanks. On the deals I've done, if buyer doesn't make payments, seller can take it back. I just assumed that would always be the way such a deal was papered. Otherwise the seller takes on an enormous amount of risk since the 1st lien is in their name.
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Cody the point Ken is making is that in a straight Subject to title has Transferred to Buyer and then buyer makes payments.. Now if buyer fails to make payments it would be good for Buyer to deed it back to the original seller. But in many cases that simply does not happen you get bad actors and they rip the rents ( because the loan is not in their name etc). Been around a lot of that mainly on smaller SFR deals. The other technique Ken is talking about is doing a wrap or in CA you have a really cool debt instrument called a All inclusive Deed of trust.. And if the buyer defaults The seller can foreclose and take title back. - Member since 2023 · 13 posts · 4 votes2y
Quote from @Bradley Lewis:
This mentorship has legit changed my life. I have closed 4 deals in the last month. 3 of them I kept and another that I wholesaled. I also have 3 more under contract. I learned all this in the mentorship with Pace. I have also raised half a million in private money capital in that group. If you would like to hear more reach out!!!
I am also in DFW , looking to join Subto community. Please check your dm.Thanks!
- Lender · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 100 posts · 57 votes2y
Quote from @Chida Truong:
Hello BP investors,
I haven't seen any recent postings about Pace Morby's Sub To Mentoship program and wanted to see if anyone can give their honest feedback about the program who's joined recently?
I noticed quite a few of the reviews were from dead accounts or 1 and done posters so I was a bit weary about the legitimacy. Being that the cost of the program is about $7800 (amount I gathered from other posts), I didn't want to to make a costly mistake. All feedback greatly appreciated.uffffff $7,800 for info Id imagine you could get from you tube university. I understand investing in yourself, but with so much info flying around for free I wouldn't want to do it.
I didn't help your question at all, but when I saw the price tag I couldn't resist.
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes2y
Quote from @Ali Radoncic:
Quote from @Chida Truong:
Hello BP investors,
I haven't seen any recent postings about Pace Morby's Sub To Mentoship program and wanted to see if anyone can give their honest feedback about the program who's joined recently?
I noticed quite a few of the reviews were from dead accounts or 1 and done posters so I was a bit weary about the legitimacy. Being that the cost of the program is about $7800 (amount I gathered from other posts), I didn't want to to make a costly mistake. All feedback greatly appreciated.uffffff $7,800 for info Id imagine you could get from you tube university. I understand investing in yourself, but with so much info flying around for free I wouldn't want to do it.
I didn't help your question at all, but when I saw the price tag I couldn't resist.
There are even better paid groups for less. I would trust Theranos with my blood before I ever trust a gator boi with my money!
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes2y
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Ali Radoncic:
Quote from @Chida Truong:
Hello BP investors,
I haven't seen any recent postings about Pace Morby's Sub To Mentoship program and wanted to see if anyone can give their honest feedback about the program who's joined recently?
I noticed quite a few of the reviews were from dead accounts or 1 and done posters so I was a bit weary about the legitimacy. Being that the cost of the program is about $7800 (amount I gathered from other posts), I didn't want to to make a costly mistake. All feedback greatly appreciated.uffffff $7,800 for info Id imagine you could get from you tube university. I understand investing in yourself, but with so much info flying around for free I wouldn't want to do it.
I didn't help your question at all, but when I saw the price tag I couldn't resist.
That original post and amount was from two years ago. Someone posted elsewhere he's charging $20,000 now. I haven't personally checked and everything needs to be verified, but I have seen a recent video where he still believes an executory contract solves the due on sale clause.
It does not.
The DOS says that an executory contract actually violates the agreement and the bank can call the loan. Very serious error on his part.
I have a few people in my group that were in the gator program (WERE) and yes it is $20,000.00 now. Pace is self dealing.
- Investor · Punta Gorda, FL · Member since 2010 · 151 posts · 127 votes2yYou're not just paying for information and contracts. You get an entire community of over 13,000 to JV with, buy deals from, sell your deals to, ask questions/get answers on your specific deal, etc. In my opinion, the community itself is well worth the cost.
Quote from @Ali Radoncic:
Quote from @Chida Truong:
Hello BP investors,
I haven't seen any recent postings about Pace Morby's Sub To Mentoship program and wanted to see if anyone can give their honest feedback about the program who's joined recently?
I noticed quite a few of the reviews were from dead accounts or 1 and done posters so I was a bit weary about the legitimacy. Being that the cost of the program is about $7800 (amount I gathered from other posts), I didn't want to to make a costly mistake. All feedback greatly appreciated.uffffff $7,800 for info Id imagine you could get from you tube university. I understand investing in yourself, but with so much info flying around for free I wouldn't want to do it.
I didn't help your question at all, but when I saw the price tag I couldn't resist.
This is also a life time membership that doesn't expire after a few months. If you divide the cost over say 3 years (I've been in over 3 years), it's probably close to the cost of monthly subscriptions to CRMs, batch dialers, skip tracing services, etc.
It's another tool in your toolbelt that doesn't have a renewal cost!!
Just my two cents.......... - Investor · Punta Gorda, FL · Member since 2010 · 151 posts · 127 votes2y
@Account Closed you have the cost of the mentorship incorrect. It less than half of what you said. This makes me wonder about the rest of the 'facts' you've posted. Not sure how you have knowledge of wrong answers, what contracts are being used for subto etc if you aren't in the community.
I'm not here to argue with you or anyone else. I just gave my opinion. Bash it if that's what you want to do.
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes2y
Quote from @Deb S.:
You're not just paying for information and contracts. You get an entire community of over 13,000 to JV with, buy deals from, sell your deals to, ask questions/get answers on your specific deal, etc. In my opinion, the community itself is well worth the cost.Quote from @Ali Radoncic:
Quote from @Chida Truong:
Hello BP investors,
I haven't seen any recent postings about Pace Morby's Sub To Mentoship program and wanted to see if anyone can give their honest feedback about the program who's joined recently?
I noticed quite a few of the reviews were from dead accounts or 1 and done posters so I was a bit weary about the legitimacy. Being that the cost of the program is about $7800 (amount I gathered from other posts), I didn't want to to make a costly mistake. All feedback greatly appreciated.uffffff $7,800 for info Id imagine you could get from you tube university. I understand investing in yourself, but with so much info flying around for free I wouldn't want to do it.
I didn't help your question at all, but when I saw the price tag I couldn't resist.
This is also a life time membership that doesn't expire after a few months. If you divide the cost over say 3 years (I've been in over 3 years), it's probably close to the cost of monthly subscriptions to CRMs, batch dialers, skip tracing services, etc.
It's another tool in your toolbelt that doesn't have a renewal cost!!
Just my two cents..........People can get all of that for a fraction of the cost. I know he uses shills but didn't know that he went as low as he has to get "promoters".
- Member since 2023 · 2 posts · 8 votes2y
After being a member for over a year, I can personally attest that if you don't have the stomach to take advantage of people during their most vulnerable moments in life, this program is not for you and you will not find membership valuable. Pace's Course is built upon a foundation of buying things from people for way less than they're worth, period, end of story. Is it any surprise then, that they're selling you a program that is priced at vastly more than it is worth?
Every day in the Facebook group, someone gets ripped off or stolen from by another "community member", and generally, the posts have an air of feigned positivity because he even alludes in the course material to the fact that if you share anything negative, you could be kicked out and lose your course dues.
Largely, I think plenty of people have accurately painted this as your typical "fake guru" scam, and even more members are afraid to speak out since they can easily kick you out of the material you paid for (and have done so with plenty of people in the past) with no refund and no legal recourse.
Stay far away. - Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 726 votes2y
Quote from @Tyler Gassman:
After being a member for over a year, I can personally attest that if you don't have the stomach to take advantage of people during their most vulnerable moments in life, this program is not for you and you will not find membership valuable. Pace's Course is built upon a foundation of buying things from people for way less than they're worth, period, end of story. Is it any surprise then, that they're selling you a program that is priced at vastly more than it is worth?
Every day in the Facebook group, someone gets ripped off or stolen from by another "community member", and generally, the posts have an air of feigned positivity because he even alludes in the course material to the fact that if you share anything negative, you could be kicked out and lose your course dues.
Largely, I think plenty of people have accurately painted this as your typical "fake guru" scam, and even more members are afraid to speak out since they can easily kick you out of the material you paid for (and have done so with plenty of people in the past) with no refund and no legal recourse.
Stay far away.It's like joining Hamas or ISIS and not thinking they have other motives than what they sold you!
- Investor · Punta Gorda, FL · Member since 2010 · 151 posts · 127 votes1y
@Account Closed my experience over the last 4 years has been worth every dime! The community is where the value is - not that the knowledge and legal docs aren't important cause they are. I've been a PML on over a dozen deals, I'm part owner of 2 mobile home parks and part owner of a SEO start up biz.
All of these deals were brought to me from the subto community-I didn't have to go looking for them and that's the power of this community. You can do an entire RE transaction just by using the resources in the Subto community.
We have wholesalers, people with subto assignments, others that do dispo, PML/PMPs, transaction coordinators, Title Companies in most states that specialize in Subto/creative finance (brand new thanks to Pace), property managers for STR/MTR, people looking to JV on Padsplit/co-living, JV partners for mobile home parks (MHPs)/RV parks, self storage, opportunities for multi-family (MF) syndications, etc. The list goes on.
The knowledge sharing is very powerful. Everyone is there to help or point you in the right direction if they can't help with your specific issue. You'll want to network, network, network so that you meet people knowledgeable in areas you're not. Many, many people have met and built their own teams within subto. People will post looking to add an underwriter to their team or a closer for example. The only way you won't be successful is if you stay silent! I have absolutely no regrets. It's a lifetime membership which I've never seen anywhere else and it more than pays for itself.
Yes, there is free information out there. But if you need help implementing that information, figuring out all the pieces to make an opportunity successful (buying a subto, doing a wrap, a lease option, seller finance, for example), what legal documents you need, a partner to help you fund your deal, then that is where the value of the subto community is.
If you know everything already then you don't need to join a mentorship. But if you want to learn and grow your portfolio and even have a partner or 2 on a deal, then Subto community might be for you.
If you do decide to join, let me know and I can send you a link for a discount. Deb
- Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes1y
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@Account Closed my experience over the last 4 years has been worth every dime! The community is where the value is - not that the knowledge and legal docs aren't important cause they are. I've been a PML on over a dozen deals, I'm part owner of 2 mobile home parks and part owner of a SEO start up biz.
All of these deals were brought to me from the subto community-I didn't have to go looking for them and that's the power of this community. You can do an entire RE transaction just by using the resources in the Subto community.
We have wholesalers, people with subto assignments, others that do dispo, PML/PMPs, transaction coordinators, Title Companies in most states that specialize in Subto/creative finance (brand new thanks to Pace), property managers for STR/MTR, people looking to JV on Padsplit/co-living, JV partners for mobile home parks (MHPs)/RV parks, self storage, opportunities for multi-family (MF) syndications, etc. The list goes on.
The knowledge sharing is very powerful. Everyone is there to help or point you in the right direction if they can't help with your specific issue. You'll want to network, network, network so that you meet people knowledgeable in areas you're not. Many, many people have met and built their own teams within subto. People will post looking to add an underwriter to their team or a closer for example. The only way you won't be successful is if you stay silent! I have absolutely no regrets. It's a lifetime membership which I've never seen anywhere else and it more than pays for itself.
Yes, there is free information out there. But if you need help implementing that information, figuring out all the pieces to make an opportunity successful (buying a subto, doing a wrap, a lease option, seller finance, for example), what legal documents you need, a partner to help you fund your deal, then that is where the value of the subto community is.
If you know everything already then you don't need to join a mentorship. But if you want to learn and grow your portfolio and even have a partner or 2 on a deal, then Subto community might be for you.
If you do decide to join, let me know and I can send you a link for a discount. Deb
I have different thoughts on the "community" I see on facebook. Here is an example where someone is now providing tax advice as a sub2 person: What is even worse is people are thinking this is great and wanting to do it as well. This group is like a herd of sheep being brought to the edge of the cliff and no one is asking the question why is everyone jumping off....
Here is also another online review.
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@Chris Seveney that is NOT the PAID Subto group. That is the FREE Creative RE group. Subto is a private FB group.
Not sure why everyone wants to jump on the 'bash Subto' band wagon? There's good and not so good people in every group out there.
I was asked about MY experience in the 4 years I've been in Subto. I provided an answer. That's all.
- Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes1y
Quote from @Deb S.:
@Chris Seveney that is NOT the PAID Subto group. That is the FREE Creative RE group. Subto is a private FB group.
Not sure why everyone wants to jump on the 'bash Subto' band wagon? There's good and not so good people in every group out there.
I was asked about MY experience in the 4 years I've been in Subto. I provided an answer. That's all.
and I did the same...
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