How I turned $10k into a $50k Line of Credit

How I turned $10k into a $50k Line of Credit

Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 42 posts · 30 votes
  • Almost 2 years ago, I was a finance director at a Dodge dealership in my home town. I had been building my rental business but soon learned that having to come up with 15-20% down on each house prevented me from buying at the rate I wanted. So, I asked my banker for a line of credit so that I could buy a house then refinance without having to put money down. The only problem was that I only had one house at the time and my equity in the house was not enough to secure a line of credit.
  • A few weeks after I talked to my banker, a previous customer of mine came to the dealership with the awful news that her husband died. She asked if I knew anyone that would buy his truck. She expressed that she needed $10k for it even though the truck was worth $20k. 
  • I used money I had been saving for my next rental to buy the truck. I then refinanced the truck at 1.9% for $20k. So, I got my initial $10k back and had another $10k for investing.
  • My next step was buying the Birmingham house using the $10k I received from the financing of the truck. I was excited because I didn't have to put any money out of my pocket to buy this rental! I hired a property manager to rent the house and I expected to just sit back and collect rent...the only problem was that the house was having problems getting rented.
  • I decided to go by the house to see what was going on. It was a nice house in a great rental neighborhood. When I walked in, the house looked nice until I walked into the master bedroom to find a toilet seat in the middle. The master bathroom was missing the toilet (the property manager was supposed to have this taken care of). I was appalled that the property manager did not do what he was paid to do AND that he was showing the house to prospective tenants with a toilet in the middle of a bedroom! He was immediately fired and I was discouraged because I was losing money while the house wasn't rented.
  • Luckily, everyone I know and meet gets to hear about my real estate goals. Someone that I worked with was looking to move out of his son's house and asked if I had anything available. I showed him the Birmingham house and he loved it! I eventually sold him the house making an $8k profit.
  • Now, I had my initial $10k back in savings and $18k to use for investing. With the $18k, I bought two rental units at great prices and cash flow. The best thing is that the two rentals I bought had enough equity for my banker to give my company a $50k line of credit!
  • With this line of credit I've bought 3 more rentals putting very little money down. I will be able to build my rental business much more quickly then if I had to put 15-20% down on each house.
  • I hope everyone that reads this post will be able to use the financing techniques I used to help grow their business using $10k to get a $50k line of credit!
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Investor · Jackson, MS · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 769 votes
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My mother and I paid cash for our first house 15K but we didn't do our due diligence and found we had to put in 30K rehabbing it. I mostly used credit cards for that. We rented the house for a year at $840 a month, and then refinanced it with a HELOC. Wells Fargo has HELOCs available with no closing costs and they pay for the appraisal without looking at the purchase price. It appraised at 50K but they only loaned us 30K at 5.6% interest. They told us after a year we could ask them to lower the interest rate. So towards the end of the year we paid off the HELOC (using balance transfers, then called and asked for a different rate. They offered us 3.99% for three years. We used the money to finance my son's house which was purchased for 23K. The house I currently live in was purchased with a loan from my solo401K (30K) Now that I've lived in it for a year, I intend to take a HELOC out on this house and buy another rental with the money.

Does anyone but me find this addicting? 

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  • Norwalk, CA · Member since 2013 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    11y

    great story, I will keep it in mind line of credit

  • Investor · Malaga, Andalucía · Member since 2014 · 150 posts · 73 votes
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    Excellent story, thank you for sharing. Sounds like an exciting process to go through, and I can imagine that was fun. This is exactly along the lines of something I've been thinking, so it's interesting to hear that it's been successful for you.

  • Bellwood, IL · Member since 2013 · 54 posts · 16 votes
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    Thanks for sharing, I'm working now to get a business line of credit to use for investing in real estate. Story like yours build hope. 

  • Beginning Investor · Birmingham, AL · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 3 votes
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    Thanks @Eric Smith for the great story. I love hearing about other people's creative finance strategies!!

  • Real Estate Agent · Milwaukee County, WI · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 525 votes
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    congrats

  • Investor · Pelham, AL · Member since 2014 · 141 posts · 44 votes
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    Thanks for sharing. This is encouraging and I place I would like to get to.

  • Real Estate Investor · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2014 · 15 posts · 2 votes
    11y

    well done 

  • Escondido, CA · Member since 2015 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    11y

    Oooh great idea! Refinancing the truck was a good move after getting such a deal. I'll keep that one in my back pocket! Thanks for posting!

  • Investor · Sammamish, WA · Member since 2013 · 94 posts · 84 votes
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    I love using my lines of credit.  I have one on my personal residence, one on two little rental homes, and one unsecured line of credit.  The rates all vary, with the unsecured being the highest interest rate, so I use that one last.  

    I chose to get a line of credit on two single family homes valued at only $60,000 and $80,000 rather than going for traditional mortgages as the origination fees were much lower and a full appraisal was not required. 

    Over time, I've been able to go back to my banks with the lines of credit and obtain better rates and higher limits.  I've found that building relationships with the lenders has proved wonders.  And, I've learned it never hurts to keep asking for better and better terms, without having to go through the trouble and costs of refinancing.

  • Unemployed · Sacramento, CA · Member since 2015 · 12 posts · 3 votes
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    Wow Eric, little did I know. Refinancing a truck got you 50k. Man, thanks for the lesson. Thinking outside the box can create some real investment capital...... GREAT!

  • Entrepreneur · Saint Peters, MO · Member since 2015 · 16 posts · 4 votes
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    Great story, thanks for sharing.

  • Richmond, VA · Member since 2015 · 12 posts · 3 votes
    11y

    this is fantastic information! I'm just getting started too, and that gives me a lot of ideas too!

  • Home Inspector and Real Estate Investor · Bloomington, MN · Member since 2015 · 38 posts · 9 votes
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    Good work! It points out the importance of thinking out of the box.

  • Real Estate Broker · Deland, FL · Member since 2014 · 83 posts · 24 votes
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    I never have looked into a LOC. What's the terms of a LOC? You got 3 rentals from the 50K, would you say the cash flow of 1 or 2 of the rentals is paying for the LOC? Are you looking at a short term of no cash flow as you pay off the LOC and look at appreciation instead? Are you buying the rentals as a rehab project and gaining equity after the rehab and doing an cash out refi to pay the LOC?

    I'm interested after  reading your post and have heard of others doing the same. Thanks

  • Garrett MayPro Member
    Investor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2008 · 67 posts · 14 votes
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    Eric,

    Great story! You provided a lot of valuable information for a new investor such as myself. Can you tell me how using the line of credit keeps you from having to put 15-20% down? Or do you still have to put the same percentage down, except it is not your money that you use?

    Garrett

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2008 · 5 posts · 0 votes
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    Great to hear about your success. I would love to emulate your results!

    (Who do you use for your lines on the rentals? I've encountered some challenges.)

  • Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 42 posts · 30 votes
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    Originally posted by @Sergio Garcia:

    I never have looked into a LOC. What's the terms of a LOC? You got 3 rentals from the 50K, would you say the cash flow of 1 or 2 of the rentals is paying for the LOC? Are you looking at a short term of no cash flow as you pay off the LOC and look at appreciation instead? Are you buying the rentals as a rehab project and gaining equity after the rehab and doing an cash out refi to pay the LOC?

    I'm interested after  reading your post and have heard of others doing the same. Thanks

     Hi Sergio,

    I only buy for cash flow but I do hope for appreciation. The point of using the line of credit is to put down no or very little money out of my pocket. I buy houses between  $30-50k, so if I pay 15% down on a $40k house I will have to come up with $6k. The money down will knock my mortgage payment down $47 per month. It will take 10.5 years to get my down payment back from the $47 per month. As long as I can cash flow after all my expenses (operating and capital) then my return will be infinite.

    Once I use the LOC to purchase the property, I tell my banker how much I will need to put the house on a note. As long as I can be under 85% of the the appraised value of the house, I can finance the the whole amount with the note paying back my LOC...it takes about 2 weeks to get the house put on a note so I can use my LOC to purchase another property.

  • Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 42 posts · 30 votes
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    Originally posted by @Jeffrey Burnham:

    Great to hear about your success. I would love to emulate your results!

    (Who do you use for your lines on the rentals? I've encountered some challenges.)

     Hi Jeffrey,

    I use a local lender that I have built a relationship with over the past year.

  • Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 42 posts · 30 votes
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    Originally posted by @Garrett May:

    Eric,

    Great story! You provided a lot of valuable information for a new investor such as myself. Can you tell me how using the line of credit keeps you from having to put 15-20% down? Or do you still have to put the same percentage down, except it is not your money that you use?

    Garrett

     Hi Garrett,

    In order to avoid putting 15-20% down I have to buy the property at a discount. If I was to go to my bank to purchase the house on a note without the LOC the bank would use the purchase price as the value of the house. When I purchase the property using the LOC (cash) the bank can then use comps from the neighborhood to appraise the value of the house which will be higher then what I bought the house for when I refinance.

  • Fargo, ND · Member since 2014 · 98 posts · 26 votes
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    That's a pretty creative way to come up with some funds. Thanks for sharing this! 

  • Twin Lakes, WI · Member since 2015 · 19 posts · 6 votes
    11y

    Well done thanks for the inspiration

  • Mortgage Note Investor & Multi-Family Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2010 · 177 posts · 51 votes
    11y

    Good job & creative financing strategy. It's amazing what we can do if we think outside the box.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2008 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    11y

    Is your Local lender someone you would care to mention for a referral? I could use someone descent that would extend a LOC on rentals.

  • SC · Member since 2014 · 303 posts · 183 votes
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    This is great!  Kudos for being so creative!  Congrats!

  • Investor · Jackson, MS · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 769 votes
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    My mother and I paid cash for our first house 15K but we didn't do our due diligence and found we had to put in 30K rehabbing it. I mostly used credit cards for that. We rented the house for a year at $840 a month, and then refinanced it with a HELOC. Wells Fargo has HELOCs available with no closing costs and they pay for the appraisal without looking at the purchase price. It appraised at 50K but they only loaned us 30K at 5.6% interest. They told us after a year we could ask them to lower the interest rate. So towards the end of the year we paid off the HELOC (using balance transfers, then called and asked for a different rate. They offered us 3.99% for three years. We used the money to finance my son's house which was purchased for 23K. The house I currently live in was purchased with a loan from my solo401K (30K) Now that I've lived in it for a year, I intend to take a HELOC out on this house and buy another rental with the money.

    Does anyone but me find this addicting? 

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