22 Years Old with 20 Units in 10 Months!

22 Years Old with 20 Units in 10 Months!

Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes

10 months ago I was driving up and down every road in this new town of Iron Mountain MI trying to get a feel for the quality of the neighborhoods and characteristics of the market. I still had a few weeks of college left but was likely going to be starting a job in the town after graduation. Having already understood that multi family properties was where I wanted to focus my attention I wanted to take a look at every apartment complex or 4+ unit structure I could find. Knowing I could only afford 4 units as my first purchase I passed by a large complex on a small lake in the center of town and said to my mother who was in the car with me… “Wow, that would be amazing to own!” Given the size of the building, location, and fact that the numbers on the carports went up to 16 I shrugged it off knowing there was no way I could ever afford something like that in the near future.

The day before graduation I received my job offer, and 2 days after graduation I submitted an offer on a 4 unit building in the hopes of living in one unit while renting out the others. I wanted to renovate the units with the idea that within 6 months I could be living rent free with my tenants paying all my bills. After negotiations and inspections I closed on my first deal in June 2015, began my job, and began renovations. 5 months later I had the first major renovations completed and got the building full to achieve my goal of living rent free before the new year.

In October 2015, during the renovations of my last vacant unit my carpet installer gave me a tip on a 16 unit building. So being young and ambitious I figured, “what the hell, why not call and see what the deal looks like.” Well, it ended up being Crystal Lake, that 16 unit that caught my eye on my first property hunt through the town.

After analyzing the numbers, viewing a few units in the property, trying to find investors interested in a partnership and exhausting my network I had to make a phone call and acknowledge my inability to move forward on the deal(I was 100% honest the entire time about my situation). I explained that while I clearly like the deal, unless the owners could provide some sort of owner financing (in the very first conversation the owners were clear about not wanting to do any owner financing) then I couldn't likely make an offer as I didn't have the financing to back it up.

Long story short, the owners came back with an owner financing option, we negotiated and had a signed purchase agreement by the end of January 2016. After getting multiple banks to negotiate on the financing I was able to secure a commercial loan in 1st position with the owner financing in second position all under very favorable terms. I walked into closing today and was only required to put $11,950 down on the building.

If anyone is interested in learning more about my financing structure, negotiation, or cash flow analysis please PM me!

Needless to say, the past 10 months have been very exciting for me. I am 22 years old and now own 20 units. The goal is to hit 150 units by age 30! But why not try to hit that by age 26?

I have to give a big shout out to the BP community for the advice, encouragement, and cautions as I have sought out help through this process. I really cannot imagine I would be where I am today without the BP community to lean on when things have gotten challenging.

For all the newbies, I was one just 10 months ago. Don’t think because you don’t have lots of money or experience you cant make it happen. It took me just $17k in total investment of my own money to secure these 20 units which rent for an average of $600 each (most of the utilities are sub metered too!). Figure out what peoples problems are and try to find the most advantageous way to solve those problems for all parties. It’s a relationship and problem solving game. Do that better then anyone else who is competing for a particular deal and you can surely see substantial success in a short period of time! 

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Investor · Weston, WI · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 114 votes
10y

I  would love to see the cash flow analysis, and I bet others would to. Can you just post it here for everyone to see?

Congrats man, you are killing it!

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  • Joe SplitrockPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
    10y

    @Joel Florekare you self managing the apartments? Just curious if your number calculations included management and oursourcing maintenance or do you plan to run these first two DIY?

  • Wholesaler · El Paso, TX · Member since 2016 · 33 posts · 7 votes
    10y

    congratulations! May I ask how did you come up with 17k as 22 years old? What is the interest rate for commercial loan and how much did they give you?

  • Investor · Randallstown, MD · Member since 2010 · 185 posts · 57 votes
    10y

    Way to go! You are quite an inspiration!!

    Katrina

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Tony HoCurrently I have $650k in loans with my lender and another $135k privately. I have my commercial loans at 4.85% for the large loan and 5.25% for my smaller loan on the 4 unit. 

    I am fortunate to have a very good day job but live very frugally and am in a low cost of living area. My monthly personal expenses are $1000 to $1500 depending on any bigger purchases I need to make. Needless to say I save every dime that I can and turn that around into my deals. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
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    @Joe SplitrockCurrently I am managing the leases but now have a maintenance manager that was in place at the 16 unit when I purchased it. I will be hiring a leasing agent in the near future to take that portion over. Just need to get my systems in place to make the on boarding process smooth. 

    I do most maintenance work myself that is majors, but I will begin to outsource that as well now that I have sufficient budgets for that. 

    All my calcs that I posted in replies on this thread are for outsourcing. If I decide to take on any work myself then its just a bonus. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Austell, GA · Member since 2014 · 232 posts · 74 votes
    10y

    This is epic man! Super congrats and best of luck on the 150 goal! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Scott RosengrantsThanks for the comment! It certainly doesn't come with its negative comments and feedback from people but I always try to make sure I filter out those who are just talking vs. those that have practical experience to back their statements. Anyone who does have the experience says go for it and keep working hard to build the business! 

  • Investor · Meriden, CT · Member since 2013 · 201 posts · 145 votes
    10y

    @Joel FlorekWell done! you're experience and success is podcast worthy!!! Congratulations!

  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    10y

    @Joel FlorekCONGRATULATIONS!  That is such an awesome accomplishment.  Best of luck to you!

  • Joe SplitrockPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Scott Rosengrants:

    Nicely done Joel. It is always inspiring to see other young people succeed in investing and not let the "too young" excuse slow you down!

    I think the title would be just as impressive if it just said 20 units in 10 Months with no mention of age. Honestly youth is really an advantage in this business. When you are young, you have not had time to create perceptions of what cannot be done. Young people think anything is possible. Good example my daughter had 2nd grade career day at her elementary school. There were six kids that wanted to veterinarians and my daughter was worried everyone would want her dream job. I told her it was unlikely any of them would ever go on to be vets for a variety of reasons including difficulty. None of the kids dressed up as landlords or real estate investors! By the way we told her it is only ok to be a veterinarian if she owns the clinic and the building.

    Other reasons being young is an advantage is the time value of real estate. With a 20 year note he will own the property free and clear by the time he is 42 (or sooner), plus rents will have gone up significantly. There is also the advantage of not having a family (just assuming he is single maybe I am wrong). What I mean is without a wife and kids, there is extra time to focus on building the business.

    Overall Joel, great start to your business. Well thought out and the numbers look good. I like that you focused on location by the lake. I am all about location for long term value.

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
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    @Victor N.I certainly hope to keep closing deals so that hopefully @Joshua D.@Brandon Turnerwill invite me on someday. Its actually one of the goals I have that I use to push me to try and do some cool/creative deals. I had an investor come speak to a college entrepreneurs group I was apart of a few years back. He dropped out of school to do real estate and probably has 80 units now all as new construction. Hearing his story was a big boost of encouragement and inspiration for me. I can only hope that I might have an impact on others like he had to me. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Brie SchmidtHey, thanks for the post. Its amazing to see everyone hop on and comment on a post after so many months of hard work to close a deal. So happy to be apart of this community! 

  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2016 · 62 posts · 52 votes
    10y

    Wow this is great. Awesome and inspiring to see you creatively financing your way into some profitable investments!

  • Real Estate Agent · Denver, CO · Member since 2015 · 8 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    @Joe SplitrockI completely agree with you that youth is a huge advantage! I encourage everyone I meet to get into investing for exactly the reasons you have proposed. I was simply congratulating @Joel Florekfor not letting others bring him down. I purchased my first property at age 20 and the push back I received was definitely disheartening at times. Congrats again Joel keep up the good work. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Joe SplitrockThanks for the comments. And I agree with you on the young part being an advantage. I found that all the people I dealt with saw me work hard, prepare material and almost seemed more willing to take a risk on me. On paper I dont have a long credit history, track record in business, or many assets. But when I walked into the bank and had a presentation ready to go on the property the local branch president told me I was the first investor who had prepared any sort of material for the investment property. 

    And I am single. One day Ill stumble upon someone hopefully. But for now its build build build so I can travel the world and not stress about how I will pay for the next flight, hotel, or meal!

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
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    @Scott Rosengrants@Joe Splitrock

    Agree with both of you. And I put the "22" in the title in the hopes that others who might get discouraged by those who push back on the youth piece might take my successes as a boost of courage to take their leap of faith into trying to achieve the goals they have for themselves. 

  • Joe SplitrockPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Scott Rosengrants:

    @Joe SplitrockI completely agree with you that youth is a huge advantage! I encourage everyone I meet to get into investing for exactly the reasons you have proposed. I was simply congratulating @Joel Florekfor not letting others bring him down. I purchased my first property at age 20 and the push back I received was definitely disheartening at times. Congrats again Joel keep up the good work. 

    Hey 20 is impressive and 22 is too, don't get me wrong. It is hard to even get a credit card anymore if you are younger than 21. I started in my early 30's and I had a banker who just about laughed me out the door. Then two other bankers got in a fight for my business and I played them off each other. The bank that didn't get my business was not happy. In hind sight I should have found a second deal for them.

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    Congratulations !! That is amazing and super exciting. 

  • Realtor · Lafayette, LA · Member since 2011 · 297 posts · 175 votes
    10y

    @Joel Florekcongrats on the success! You took action when most people would be too scared. Props to you my friend

  • Real Estate Agent · Nashville, TN · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    10y

    Very inspirational. Keep up the good work. 

  • St. Helena, CA · Member since 2016 · 147 posts · 59 votes
    10y
    Nice work, definitely gets me motivated to read this.
  • Rental Property Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2015 · 272 posts · 50 votes
    10y

    Congrats @Joel Florek!

    As a young newbee this is very inspirational!

    Thanks for sharing and good luck on your next deals!

  • Investor · Daphne, AL · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 242 votes
    10y
    Congrats.
  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
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    @Ryan HeywoodHappy to hear! I always got inspired through others stories and of course still do. Its how we push ourselves to keep moving forward. Seeing everyone post back on this gets me excited for the next deal so I can put another story up on the forums! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Michigan City, IN · Member since 2015 · 530 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    @Tristan CortezThanks my friend! Its been a lot of fun through the closing process and very fun to see people read my story and comment back! Much appreciated. 

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