How would you rate this deal?

How would you rate this deal?

Dallas, TX · Member since 2014 · 650 posts · 53 votes
1,300 sq located in Waco 3 bedroom 2.5 bath Built in 1965 Previous owner rehabbed it so its move in ready $120,000 Would rent for $1,100 Taxes 2.8%
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NYC, NY · Member since 2016 · 617 posts · 456 votes
10y

Assumptions:

Purchase:  120K Cash

Monthly rent inc: $1100

RE Tax: 2.8% of $120K = approx $3400 >> $285/mo (might be high)

Insurance = $100 

Vacancy @ 5% = $55

R & M @ 5% = $55

CapEx @ 8% = $88

Property Manager @ 8% = $88

Total Expenses: $671/mo = $8052

Net Cash Flow:  $429/mo = $5148/yr

Cash on Cash = 4.3% (COC goes to 5.17% if no property manager.) This is better than the bank, but most investors want a higher CoC.

With $30K down, a $90K mtge @ 4% your cash flow would be $0.  Also no good.  

What'd you get?

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  • Austin, TX · Member since 2016 · 1 post · 0 votes
    10y

    If you put 20% down and finance the rest, just from working out the calculator with standard numbers at $1100 rent I show it as negative cashflow. 

  • NYC, NY · Member since 2016 · 617 posts · 456 votes
    10y

    Assumptions:

    Purchase:  120K Cash

    Monthly rent inc: $1100

    RE Tax: 2.8% of $120K = approx $3400 >> $285/mo (might be high)

    Insurance = $100 

    Vacancy @ 5% = $55

    R & M @ 5% = $55

    CapEx @ 8% = $88

    Property Manager @ 8% = $88

    Total Expenses: $671/mo = $8052

    Net Cash Flow:  $429/mo = $5148/yr

    Cash on Cash = 4.3% (COC goes to 5.17% if no property manager.) This is better than the bank, but most investors want a higher CoC.

    With $30K down, a $90K mtge @ 4% your cash flow would be $0.  Also no good.  

    What'd you get?

  • Round Lake Beach, IL · Member since 2016 · 50 posts · 11 votes
    10y

    I would recommend the calculators on the site.  They are really good!  Looks like that's what @Karen O. used. It is good to keep those additional expenses in mind when reviewing buy and holds, as you should always budget things like vacancy, CapEx, insurance, etc. Always be conservative, and a lot of those values (vacancy and insurance) can be researched in your area, but worst case with a conservative number is that it is less than what you budget for.

  • Rental Property Investor · North Conway, NH · Member since 2016 · 69 posts · 16 votes
    10y
    I can tell just by the taxes that the deal isn't very good. I am dealing with the same obstacle in my area (over 2% tax). Also I think capex is usually 10% and maintenance and repairs is about 10%. Management in my area is closer to 12% (including turnovers).
  • Consultant · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2015 · 122 posts · 34 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Steve S.:

    1,300 sq located in Waco
    3 bedroom
    2.5 bath
    Built in 1965

    Previous owner rehabbed it so its move in ready

    $120,000

    Would rent for $1,100

    Taxes 2.8%

    Depends on your goals. Personally I would pass since it doesn't cash flow. 

  • Investor · Big Spring, TX · Member since 2016 · 140 posts · 59 votes
    10y

    Assuming you do a loan at 120k for 15yrs at 5% (that's what I'm typically doing in Texas) you payment would be about $950. That doesn't sound good. If your paying all cash, then it would take you about 12 years to recoup that money at 1100 a month.

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