“The position of f*** you”

“The position of f*** you”

Rental Property Investor · Providence, RI · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 594 votes
The title of this post may get me into a little bit of hot water, but I ask that any moderator read a little further before drawing conclusions. I hope this term helps to serve as motivation to other investors, and there is a point to it other than blatant vulgarity, I promise! https://youtu.be/rJjKP8vYjpQ Above is a link to an excellent scene in the movie, “The Gambler” where John Goodman’s character describes to Marky Mark what we can summate as financial freedom. A position of f*** you is a status reached when you are in the driver’s seat in life. You owe no one anything, and have created a “fortress of solitude” where you can make decisions without ever giving anyone or anything the ability to leverage you. Your free to do what you want, when you want, so long as you don’t live like a pig, because everyone who has ever seen the movie “Wall Street” knows that all pigs get slaughtered. I saw this movie several years ago, thought the scene was great, but never really thought more about it for a while until someone who was and remains a very big role model in my life, particularly in the RE Investing world really drew my attention back to the scene. Now it is a common term we use that has become a joke, that in reality has become the term to embody us, our positions and outlooks on life, and our investing career. We have achieved self reliance and eliminated dependency. That in turn, has freed us. This post isn’t about one deal, or even my career investing. It is about what everyone here can achieve if you put your head down and shift into 5th gear without looking up until you shatter your goals. That action is what changes lives. Not half measures. I am 32 years old. I’ve been goal oriented and driven my entire life in one form or another. I have come to learn, that diligence, and perseverance in the face of failure and adversity along with remaining vigilant in order to achieve one’s goals are qualities that you either have or you do not. That hunger, fight, drive, and eye of the tiger is either in you or it’s not. In having this mind set, I have always had a list of goals. These goals change over time, they evolve, grow, and sometimes they go away because what is important to me changes, but more often than not, they get crossed off of the list. I can say here without ego that one of my main goals was becoming a millionaire before the age of 30. I don’t mean a paper millionaire before October 2008 based on a balance sheet. I mean a real millionaire. A f*** you millionaire where holdings, and cash determine it because your bank accounts have lots of zeros. Real liquid assets and holdings with substantial equity that are constantly reinvested in order to further grow. The funniest thing is that through my 20’s, I worked so hard to reach that goal. I clawed and dig to get there. I worked 3 jobs to fund deals, and I loved it because I earned it after going through the pain. There was no hard money lender. No angel investor. No secret recipe, or some millennial metric. There was work and grit. When I actually reached my goal, I honestly hadn’t even realized it because at the end of the day, none of it matters. Whether you have 10 million or 10 billion, if you live YOUR life, the numbers don’t matter after a certain point. Live within your means, get to the point where you can do what you want to do when you want to do it. I live in a normal colonial style house in a middle class neighborhood. I drive a Toyota Tundra. Beyond that, it is all gravy. I’m not the guy that has the Ferrari (with payments) that has no cash to fill the tank or get an oil change. The success story isn’t the million before 30. It’s being able to write a check for my son’s school tuition without batting an eye. It’s about being able to go out to dinner and not care if we pound a few martinis because of the bill may be a little higher. Or taking off for 3 weeks on a motorcycle trip and not worrying about it. The success story is freedom to enjoy the simple things, and everyone here can achieve that with the focus and fortitude. What are my current goals? I am working to bring in $1 million dollars a year in passive rental income which is a little under $84,000 a month. I suspect when I reach that (I’m close!!!) I’ll push for an even $100K per month in rental income just to make it a nice neat number. Not really for any other reason to be honest. This goal is for my personal portfolio. My goal following that, is to build my brand in New England. I want to continue to find like minded investors to work with. I want to fund them, build out their buildings, and manage them, scaling the model that have been building outside of my own portfolio the last several years. Creating a reputable business that provides my customers with excellent customer service, efficiency, and open communication is paramount. I want this to continue as the business scales. It needs to be a well oiled machine, but still needs the feel and personal touch of a small business. Tricky, but it’s a goal. The other big goal is to ensure that my loyal employees get their fair share. Full benefits, comprehensive retirement planning, and some holdings of their own. Everyone making money and having a vested interest builds brand loyalty and a sense of pride. Final goal is to teach my son the position of f*** you. This lesson doesn’t come on a silver spoon, or in the form of a participation trophy. It comes from hard work, long hours, sacrifice, and failure. Once you claw out of that, and are self sufficient, you have earned the right to look someone in the eye and say, “F*** You!” Everyone that reads this can do it. Be a lion, not a sheep, and you’ll soon be in the driver’s seat. And if your smart and have stayed humble, it won’t be a Ferrari despite being able to buy 10 of them.
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Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
9y

Congratulations

One word of advice, if you really want to teach your son the right path do not pay for his education. Loan him the money if necessary but make him work to pay his own way. Enabling children by sending a message that daddy or mommy will pay their way leads to spoiled overly entitled children that once given the opportunity will squander their inheritance.

You made it, make sure in doing so you do not destine your children to failure. They need to make it on their own.

Good luck and again congratulations.

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  • Raeford, NC · Member since 2017 · 39 posts · 9 votes
    9y
    Thank you for this post, i saw that movie about a year ago and i loved that scene and wanted it. A friend of mine is the ond who told me about REI and i actually told him i wanna be in that f*** you position. I also love how you worded it about having the little things and not about the expensive fancy cars. That is exactly what i want to achieve for me and my family.
  • Member since 2016 · 13k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    9y

    One of the added upsides of reaching the FU status is in dealing with tenants. I treat my good tenants like gold, I have zero tolerance for those that do not toe the line. With a FU status I never have to tolerate dealing with late payments or other bad tenant practices. Why would I. The cost to change tenants is minimal and the satisfaction of having all good tenants is priceless.

    Ten percent of all tenants are bad and the majority of landlords are forced to tolerate their behaviour, I do not.

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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    9y

    I get the reference and I don't disagree with the basic premise - having enough financial freedom to avoid doing a lot of things you don't want to do - but there's really no such thing as an FU number, as we all need each other fulfilling our roles in society in order to even have a number. To wit: if suddenly all of your renters said "FU" and didn't pay, you'd start evicting, but if all the other renters said "FU, we'd rather live under the bridge", you would in short order be living under the bridge with them. Think about the Montgomery bus boycott. The politicians and the bus system laughed at the black boycotters, essentially told them "FU, we don't want you riding our buses unless you want to be treated like the crap you are". OK, that's fine. For a year, virtually all of the black citizens in that city walked or carpooled everywhere, to the point where the bus system was almost bankrupted and relented. 

    So anyway, I don't want to be a wet blanket, because I get your point and don't disagree with the basic premise, but I think we should all realize that we depend on each other in order to do well. If there weren't any people that were not so good with their money, and everyone bought houses, none of us buy & hold people would have a business. And it's like that in everything. 

    PS: I'm an ex-sailor and have combined strings of words that would make Andrew Dice Clay blush, but I agree with my buddy @Joe Splitrock. I don't think the concept needs to be profane. The "f" word has little value anymore, because little old ladies and soccer moms fling it around everywhere. I'm a pretty liberal person (the bad Socialist!), but I think we've just become a little too laissez-faire with how we act in public. 

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  • Investor · MA · Member since 2017 · 20 posts · 7 votes
    9y
    Hi Brandon Love your post! Keep going and inspiring others too. I'm just getting started!
  • Investor · Attleboro, MA · Member since 2016 · 137 posts · 51 votes
    9y

    Brandon-

    I'm in a similar position, although you've done quite a few more deals than I have.  It's a good feeling, empowering and your statement is WELL worded.  Congrats, keep going!

  • Rental Property Investor · Providence, RI · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 594 votes
    9y
    Thank you everyone. I’m glad that the majority of you are grasping my point with this. Clearly, I say things bluntly and in an unapologetic manner. Ruffles some feathers at times, but generally very beneficial as to not leave people guessing. As far as the profanity filterers out there or people staying that money isn’t everything. Hey I get it. Everyone has their style and I’ll be respectful of yours. You may just not agree with mine, and that is okay. Andrew Dice Clay and Joel Olstein both have their Kool-Aid that people drink, and not everyone is going to drink mine. No worries. Money not being everything. 2 sides of the coin. Yes. Money is not the end all be all. It doesn’t solve every problem or guarantee happiness. However, I did grow up, we’ll use the term modestly. I can tell you from experience that whoever said money isn’t everything was a guy who didn’t have it. Again, does it solve all problems? No. You can bet your *** it solves 85% of them though. Someone stated a mentioned a little earlier in the thread about the quality of tenants. I 100% agree. It is all about having great tenants. Know their names, take accountability of their issues, be available, and be attentive. Real estate is anything but the business of real estate. It is 75% a people business and 25% about the physical real estate. The sooner you realize that, the more successful you will be in whatever manner you use to keep score.
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