21 Years Old & Sold $8.2M in Multis in 2018

21 Years Old & Sold $8.2M in Multis in 2018

Real Estate Broker · Manchester, NH · Member since 2014 · 630 posts · 420 votes

Let me preface this by saying... I've seen A LOT of posts recently of people under 25 asking for advice about getting into real estate.  And I think that's great, don't get me wrong.  I put out one of those posts when I first discovered BiggerPockets too.  Young people interested in bettering themselves financially and thinking about real estate while many others are focused on partying... that's a great thing!  Power to you!  

BUT... many of these posts go something along the lines of "I've got no money, no credit, no job, but how do I be successful in real estate?"  Wholesaling seems to be a common "get rich quick" path that people want to try.  Some ask about how they can get a seller to finance their first deal for zero money down.  Others want to try the complicated sounding master lease option.  But in reality... the odds of any of those things being the magic pill to creating massive success in real estate is slim to none.  

I took a bit of a different path, and since I probably caught some eyes with the flashy headline and the fact I posted this in the "Success Stories" forum... I'll explain a little bit of my story here.  I joined BiggerPockets five years ago as a small-town, 16 year old, New Hampshire boy, motivated to make it big in real estate but having no clue how to actually do it.  One of my first posts was polling the members here "is it worth going to college for a real estate degree if planning on being a full-time investor?"  (Spoiler alert) -  I didn't end up going to college and I gained a lot of valuable insight from the responses I got.  Ultimately I realized that to get into real estate investing... you do need money and you do need a job.  Otherwise you can't just buy properties!  

So I figured "well if I can't buy properties myself, I should do the next best thing which is sell them to people who can!" and that's how I decided to pursue the path of being a real estate agent.  I'll fast-forward through a lot of the details, but three and a half years after having gotten my real estate license, I'm closing out this year selling $8,218,300 of multifamily properties for a combined total of 117 multifamily units.  And contrary to my profile picture which still makes me look like I'm in middle school... I am 21 years old.  I've helped out a lot of first-time and a lot of experienced investors alike... both with buying properties and selling properties.  This year was a huge win for me and I'm very happy with the success in my real estate agency business.  However, there is a not so successful part of my story here too.  

I bust my a-- working 80+ hours a week, opening doors, showing properties, pushing paperwork, and... here's the kicker... I STILL HAVEN'T BOUGHT A PROPERTY.  Being self-employed and only three years of credit history makes it really hard to qualify for a mortgage.  2019 is finally going to be the year that I can afford one... because my last two years of tax returns show I've made enough money to get approved for a mortgage.  I have my sights set on a great four family that I'm hoping to have purchased by Spring but there's definitely a lesson to be learned here.  

For all of the aspiring young real estate entrepreneurs and investors out there reading this post, here's my words of wisdom for you... 

  1. GET A JOB - (W2 income is sooooo much easier to qualify for a mortgage and make consistent income.  Plus, you might hate real estate as a full time job.  Hanging drywall and fixing toilets ain't so glamorous in real life)
  2. SAVE MONEY - (yes you need cash in the bank to buy a property.  There are great programs out there that can get you low-money down or no-money down loans... but it still takes cash to operate a property and you need to have an "oh s---" fund in case something breaks)
  3. DON'T RUSH -  (it takes time to build wealth in real estate.  You can't expect to go from reading a book to owning a big apartment complex in six months.  You need to spend time educating yourself, viewing properties, getting money lined up, analyzing deals, and THEN... MAYBE... pulling the trigger)

There is no "get-rich-quick" scheme in real estate.  You have to work hard and you have to spend a long time before you'll even be moderately successful in the industry.  If you want to get involved as a real estate wholesaler or agent or flipper... great!  There are some very successful people in those spaces that frequent these forums.  But you have to work twice as hard as anybody else in your market for YEARS if you want people to know your name, respect you, and want to do business with you.  Its not for everyone and there's no shame in buying one property every couple years passively while you're happily pursuing your passion in a completely different industry (and hopefully making lots of dough!)  And don't forget... if you don't have a W2 job... getting financing is really difficult.  I found that out the hard way :)

To all of my would-be, up-and-coming, or already wildly-successful, young real estate entrepreneurs... I wish you the best of luck and success in 2019!  And to all of those that are older and wiser than me... thank you for your continued support and guidance, and I hope your year is fabulous as well!  

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Investor · Roseville, CA · Member since 2016 · 893 posts · 1k+ votes
7y

Great story and great advice @Matt Lefebvre, I only wish I had your passion and drive when I was your age.  You have a 20 year head start on me so I can't wait to see what you accomplish by the time you are my age!  

Cheers!

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  • Investor · Roseville, CA · Member since 2016 · 893 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Great story and great advice @Matt Lefebvre, I only wish I had your passion and drive when I was your age.  You have a 20 year head start on me so I can't wait to see what you accomplish by the time you are my age!  

    Cheers!

  • Rental Property Investor · Hollis, NH · Member since 2018 · 108 posts · 36 votes
    7y

    @Matt Lefebvre congrats Matt! That’s a lot of success at a young age. You have a long exciting road ahead of you. Keep up the great work! I have a feeling we will all be hearing you on a BP podcast before we know it!

    Rick

  • New to Real Estate · Marietta, GA · Member since 2018 · 169 posts · 40 votes
    7y
    Congrqtulations Matt! Your hard work has been paying off. The same way you are crushing it as an agent, you will for sure as a REI.

    Best Regards,

    Dieggo Goncalves 



    Originally posted by @Matt Lefebvre:

    Let me preface this by saying... I've seen A LOT of posts recently of people under 25 asking for advice about getting into real estate.  And I think that's great, don't get me wrong.  I put out one of those posts when I first discovered BiggerPockets too.  Young people interested in bettering themselves financially and thinking about real estate while many others are focused on partying... that's a great thing!  Power to you!  

    BUT... many of these posts go something along the lines of "I've got no money, no credit, no job, but how do I be successful in real estate?"  Wholesaling seems to be a common "get rich quick" path that people want to try.  Some ask about how they can get a seller to finance their first deal for zero money down.  Others want to try the complicated sounding master lease option.  But in reality... the odds of any of those things being the magic pill to creating massive success in real estate is slim to none.  

    I took a bit of a different path, and since I probably caught some eyes with the flashy headline and the fact I posted this in the "Success Stories" forum... I'll explain a little bit of my story here.  I joined BiggerPockets five years ago as a small-town, 16 year old, New Hampshire boy, motivated to make it big in real estate but having no clue how to actually do it.  One of my first posts was polling the members here "is it worth going to college for a real estate degree if planning on being a full-time investor?"  (Spoiler alert) -  I didn't end up going to college and I gained a lot of valuable insight from the responses I got.  Ultimately I realized that to get into real estate investing... you do need money and you do need a job.  Otherwise you can't just buy properties!  

    So I figured "well if I can't buy properties myself, I should do the next best thing which is sell them to people who can!" and that's how I decided to pursue the path of being a real estate agent.  I'll fast-forward through a lot of the details, but three and a half years after having gotten my real estate license, I'm closing out this year selling $8,218,300 of multifamily properties for a combined total of 117 multifamily units.  And contrary to my profile picture which still makes me look like I'm in middle school... I am 21 years old.  I've helped out a lot of first-time and a lot of experienced investors alike... both with buying properties and selling properties.  This year was a huge win for me and I'm very happy with the success in my real estate agency business.  However, there is a not so successful part of my story here too.  

    I bust my a-- working 80+ hours a week, opening doors, showing properties, pushing paperwork, and... here's the kicker... I STILL HAVEN'T BOUGHT A PROPERTY.  Being self-employed and only three years of credit history makes it really hard to qualify for a mortgage.  2019 is finally going to be the year that I can afford one... because my last two years of tax returns show I've made enough money to get approved for a mortgage.  I have my sights set on a great four family that I'm hoping to have purchased by Spring but there's definitely a lesson to be learned here.  

    For all of the aspiring young real estate entrepreneurs and investors out there reading this post, here's my words of wisdom for you... 

    1. GET A JOB - (W2 income is sooooo much easier to qualify for a mortgage and make consistent income.  Plus, you might hate real estate as a full time job.  Hanging drywall and fixing toilets ain't so glamorous in real life)
    2. SAVE MONEY - (yes you need cash in the bank to buy a property.  There are great programs out there that can get you low-money down or no-money down loans... but it still takes cash to operate a property and you need to have an "oh s---" fund in case something breaks)
    3. DON'T RUSH -  (it takes time to build wealth in real estate.  You can't expect to go from reading a book to owning a big apartment complex in six months.  You need to spend time educating yourself, viewing properties, getting money lined up, analyzing deals, and THEN... MAYBE... pulling the trigger)

    There is no "get-rich-quick" scheme in real estate.  You have to work hard and you have to spend a long time before you'll even be moderately successful in the industry.  If you want to get involved as a real estate wholesaler or agent or flipper... great!  There are some very successful people in those spaces that frequent these forums.  But you have to work twice as hard as anybody else in your market for YEARS if you want people to know your name, respect you, and want to do business with you.  Its not for everyone and there's no shame in buying one property every couple years passively while you're happily pursuing your passion in a completely different industry (and hopefully making lots of dough!)  And don't forget... if you don't have a W2 job... getting financing is really difficult.  I found that out the hard way :)

    To all of my would-be, up-and-coming, or already wildly-successful, young real estate entrepreneurs... I wish you the best of luck and success in 2019!  And to all of those that are older and wiser than me... thank you for your continued support and guidance, and I hope your year is fabulous as well!  

  • Real Estate Broker · Manchester, NH · Member since 2014 · 630 posts · 420 votes
    7y

    Thanks @Jon Crosby!  You seem to still be doing extremely well for yourself, especially with the IT career you had... seems like you've applied it to the real estate world quite well!

    @Richard Lovering thank you!  I just hope to inspire some to take the same path I did, and convince others not to follow in my footsteps if its not for them :).  

    Thank you @Dieggo Goncalves, that'll be an exciting next step!  

  • Windham, NH · Member since 2014 · 12 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    Matt you could not have said it any better . You for sure need CASH to do anything in real estate weather its buying a fixer upper a long term buy an hold or even one that your going to live in.I just wish i had done it a lot sooner like yourself .And for the people who are older there still time for us at the age of 56 years old i bought my first multi family 5 units and 2 years later i bought a 3 unit so there is still a lot to learn but having a lot of fun .Thank you Matt for sharing your wisdom

  • Investor · Campton, NH · Member since 2010 · 284 posts · 142 votes
    7y

    Kudos to you, Matt! I do agree with everything you said and it definitely takes tenacity and patience to overcome the initial inertia and gain some traction as an investor. 

    Having done 75 buy-sell deals 2003 thru 2010 and subsequently losing my entire portfolio 2008 thru 2013, I've been clawing my way back from a position of no cash whatsoever and remain deeply entrenched in the 'turnaround' via being a painting contractor, flipping the odd house here and there, and as an agent with Keller Williams (focused mostly on higher-end mountain properties). With the last house I flipped, a partner and I borrowed private funds at 12% to acquire and rehab the house, which was a starter home somewhat out in the sticks near me. I found the deal, was paid $35/hr to oversee the rehab, sold it as the Realtor on the back end and got 50% of the profit (which equated to $11k to me on the $129k sale, plus commission). Our rehab ended up costing $5k more than anticipated, which my partner kicked in and he also made the monthly payments. This was a deal that took no money out of my pocket whatsoever, BUT I had the relationship with both the partner and the private lender from previous deals. The using-none-of-your-own-funds can be done, but again might take some determination and having the right connections, which can take some time to develop! 

    Here's to a robust 2019 for all of us and get after it, Matt!  :)

  • Hamilton, On · Member since 2018 · 75 posts · 36 votes
    7y
    This is humbling, encouraging, and irritating at the same time, @Matt Lefebvre. First, let me say thank you for posting your story and laying it all out on the table, The Good, The bad and The ugly. And I agree that there is no get rich quick method to real estate. It all takes a lot of time and effort and fumbling. But I will make this note... You chose the path of a real estate agent to get into real estate and make a way for yourself into investing. Where guru's make wholesaling, Master leases, or seller financing to be the magic pill, as you put it, I believe they are still paths into real estate that will make way for successful investing. Granted, it all takes time, effort, and fumbling but I think it's all worth it if you find your niche and you're willing to put in the neccessary effort and energy. Congratulations on your success, and I hope you get the 4-Plex you have your eye on.
  • Investor · Morrisville, NC · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 673 votes
    7y

    @Matt Lefebvre . Nice headline. Sounds like one from Russell Brunson from Click funnels. 

    Congrats on taking action. I always tell people, real estate investing in a marathon, not a sprint. It takes time, strategy, stamina, planning, execution ... etc. Seems like you are on the right track. You picked your path and are following through.

    Good luck.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    7y

    Smart guy. !! your now have a career that you can do for a lifetime and if you think its good now.. wait till your 30 your will be knocking down well over a million a year in commissions.

    I say this a lot on this site.. why are you people not getting into selling commerical real estate..  it astounds me that instead they blow what little seed capital they have thinking they are going to wholesale houses.

    granted some do OK but most dont as we know.. 

    you decided to make it a true career.. not a get rich so i can buy rentals and not have to work any more.. thats flawed thinking at the outset.  Even if you buy a bunch of rentals you have to stay very much engaged lest you lose your butt

  • Rental Property Investor · Manchester, NH · Member since 2013 · 447 posts · 81 votes
    7y

    You the man Matt! :)

  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2018 · 301 posts · 354 votes
    7y

    @Matt Lefebvre great story and congrats on your success! I look forward to updates as you continue your journey.

  • Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 500 votes
    7y

    This is the truth. Took me quite a few years as a self employed individual with my short sale company and real estate license to be able to purchase my first few properties. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Manchester, NH · Member since 2014 · 630 posts · 420 votes
    7y

    @Paul Moran there's definitely still time!  You need the cash and it can be done... but the second best time to start investing in real estate is today... the best time was twenty years ago :)

    @Richard Dale-Mesaros man you're a legend with a story like that!  Already proving my post wrong and showing me up!  Haha I'm looking forward to working with you one of these days Richard... I'm sure we'll get a deal done together this year.  

    @Joel Arndt and boy oh boy was there a lot of ugly along the way!  I appreciate your insight onto the real estate brokerage business.  After a lot of research, this is the industry I felt would get me as close as possible to the people I needed to know to be successful as an investor... and turns out, it got me in exactly with the right crowd!  

    @Henri Meli thanks!  I spent a lot of time making a very "clickbait-y headline" :).  Its definitely something that you have to be in for the long term... Success rarely happens overnight in any industry.  Real estate especially.

    @Jay Hinrichs I'm hoping to be making that much by 29 actually ;).  That you for your support though and I wholeheartedly agree with your statement.  There's a lot of education and work to be successful on the commercial side of the real estate brokerage business, but compared next to being a doctor or attorney or even a microbiologist, the amount of hours in a classroom (and dollars of tuition) are exponentially smaller!  

    @Sean Brennan no you the man! You're on the right path too man! See you at the next REIA meeting ;)

    @Kelly Iannone thank you!  I can't wait to see what the next steps of my journey bring!

    @Brett Goldsmith that's what I tried to put out in this post.  Being self-employed is hard... and it ironically makes it harder to be a real estate investor!  They don't teach you that in school!  

  • Member since 2018 · 25 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @Matt Lefebvre man oh man I am trying to be on your level of success!!! If you’re interested in giving any great advice please feel free to message me!!!

  • Cape Coral, FL · Member since 2018 · 38 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    @Matt Lefebvre Your the man Matt!!! I’m from Massachusetts, so were neighbors!! Best of Luck to u in 2019

  • Ian WalshBusiness Member
    Lender · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    I love it. Age is not a barrier in this game. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Ithaca, NY · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Matt Lefebvre

    Young person making it big in RE, you’re a true inspiration man.

  • Peter TverdovBusiness Member
    Developer · New Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    One of the few success stories I have wanted to congratulate someone on immediately. That's how you do it dude. College is completely overrated. Keep working your tail off, it'll take you to places you never thought possible while your peers are stuck working some 9-5 that they hate. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Greater Boston Area · Member since 2018 · 258 posts · 105 votes
    7y

    Great post, and congrats on your success. I look forward to crossing paths on both our real estate investing journies in the future.

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