Started out with $25k 5 years ago, now I have 90 rentals!

Started out with $25k 5 years ago, now I have 90 rentals!

Real Estate Agent · Circleville, OH · Member since 2008 · 633 posts · 488 votes

I posted this elsewhere but figured I'd share my 5+ year ongoing story of buying rental properties to encourage members here. 

  • Personal Background

Most of my childhood was spent growing up inside a tenant house on a large farm south of Columbus Ohio. We moved into there when I was about 6 years old as our landlord on the previous house would not sell it to my dad on a land contract. Something he always hated, and the mostly-falling apart farmhouse was all my parents could find after being handed a 30 day notice.

The house had holes in the walls, no insulation but it did have a nice big cast iron wood burning stove so we didn't freeze to death in the winter.

During my teenage years between playing video games, I managed to start (And fail) with an online paintball store. My brother and I tried between ages 15 and 18 to start a local paintball field to absolutely no avail. I learned a little bit about business, but couldn't really comprehend what to do as we were in a total vacuum on the farm, especially since we knew virtually no one who ran a business.

When I was 18 my dad had a heart attack which required that both my brother and I get a job as soon as humanly possible as our mom did not make near enough money cleaning houses to support the family. That resulted my brother and I never going to college, which in the end of the blessing since we never really got in any sort of educational debt. I ended up finding a job in a warehouse, enough to throw enough money towards my parents to help continue to meet rent & pay for food.

To make matters worse the winter after my dad had a heart attack and was unable to care for himself, the house we lived in developed a very major underground natural gas leak resulting from a newly drilled oil well the owner of the farm had had permitted on the property. Everybody in our house got sick and essentially our family had to break up for a while with me living with my grandma and my brother staying with my parents as the only thing they could find was a small one-bedroom apartment. I went to live with my grandma for a short time, eventually the family re-united as it was proven my dad's heart attack was from agent orange related sickness which meant he'd be disabled/on disability for the rest of his life.

After holding the warehouse job for 3 years, I found myself at age 21, continuing to work at the warehouse in Groveport Ohio (A suburb of Columbus) making about $11 an hour. Realizing that I would never be able to afford a family on $11 bucks an hour I got the bright idea to get into real estate - I figured since every real estate agent I knew either drove a Cadillac or a Lincoln they MUST be making great money. So while I was working my full-time job still supporting my parents I started taking classes at the local real estate school to get my license.

  • Being A Real Estate Agent

After I got into Real Estate as a full time agent, I quickly realized that most real estate agents were flat broke. Sure, many of them had new Cadillacs and nice clothes, but the vast majority were in significant amounts of debt and even worse many agents I met had absolutely no personal wealth (Heck many didn't even own a house, they rented!).

I met a few older real estate agents who were still in the game, yet surviving off of Social Security. That scared the crap out of me as a new agent realizing that so many were essentially Working Poor.

As I ventured further into the life of a real estate agent, I ran into something that I had never experienced before in my life - People that had money in the bank,and weren't living paycheck to paycheck.

A couple years into being an agent I was regularly meeting people who had six figures of cash in the bank. Growing up poor the richest person I knew was an engineer at a local chemical plant making $50,000 a year. Even then they never had that much money but we kind of felt they were comfortable. So meeting a guy that drove a over 20 year old K car with half a million dollars cash in the bank totally blew my mind. And it wasn't just that one guy that I was showing houses to that had enough cash to buy something, I was regularly meeting people who looked average yet had six figures in the bank.

My job gave me the ability to sit down and pick the brain of these kinds of people. They all looked poor from the outside but we're very wealthy when they started providing Bank information to me so I could assess their finances to buy a house. The vast majority of them got wealthy because at some point they had either inherited real estate that had severely appreciated, or they themselves at purchase properties in the past, let them appreciate, and then sold them reaping the rewards.

At the same time I moved my real estate to a new brokerage and was able to share office with an elderly gentleman who had just retired as the CEO of a local Oil Company. He got into real estate because in his words he was bored and figured he could do a better job than most of the idiots in real estate. As I continued to work with clients that had money, and was able to glean wisdom off this retired oil CEO I realized that being a simple sales agent was not a great career path. So I worked slowly towards buying real estate. This whole story worked itself out between 2006 when I got my license and late 2008 when the mortgage Crisis took place.

Part of what introduced me to so many interesting people was I was working foreclosures primarily. Back at this time you could do something called a BPO for a lender which is like a mini appraisal which required you to take pictures of a house and complete paperwork. I was making thousands of dollars doing these, and started a real estate blog talking about foreclosures and the economy. The blog caught on fire as the mortgage crisis started ramping up and I was getting calls from people all over the United States asking for help getting in contact with people at large lending institutions in order to work out a deal on a foreclosure.

I started making some decent money online not really doing anything, and absolutely not showing any houses. So I piggybacked the success of my blogs and got into online marketing, search engine optimization, and the whole world of online business. Still selling houses, still processing foreclosures. In 2009 I started a couple extravagantly successful websites where I made six figures selling stupid stuff online that was loosely connected to real estate. I had suddenly had massive success in business, but I really was not ready for it. I reinvested something like $200,000 of quickly earned money back into more online marketing stuff which all fell flat on its face.

July 2009 rolls around and my first daughter is born, I build the greatest desktop I have ever seen, and a really bad WordPress exploit hits the internet and I lose every single website overnight. Very much unable to recover things as I try and help my wife out with a newborn while working through the night trying to build back my online business.

I have minor success between 2010 and 2011 and by 2012 I build a search engine optimization business and while not making great money it was still more than enough to support my family. I kept going back to the fact that I had done business with people that we're not constantly broke, and that real estate was way more stable than anything that I could ever do on the internet regarding sales.

  • Starting as a Landlord/Investor

Then in late 2012 to early 2013 Bitcoin started taking off, some of the people I did business with were suddenly Rich, so I started these fresh millionaires with the idea of going in together and buying a bunch of rentals here in Ohio.

By mid 2013 it was very apparent to me that this thing going of out and finding investors was actually going to work, so I packaged up and sold my search engine optimization business while setting aside about $25,000 to throw in the pot with the other investors. I also allocated another about $5,000 towards legal fees and retaining a lawyer to help me understand the process of accepting investment from an outside Source.

By the end of 2013 I had purchased two rental properties. The first one was a large, but extremely rundown 5 bed 2 bathroom home. After it's all said and done I had $60,000 in it and we rented it out within two days of being on the Market at $1,000 a month. The second property I purchased was a cheap little 3 bed 1 bath for $25,000. I thought at the time all we would have to do would be put a roof on it but we found out that it had been empty for so long that the gas company had abandoned the lines and they need to be redone. Five or six thousand dollars later it was complete and I rented that one out within a week of it being on the market for $650.

So by this point I had spent the princely sum of $90,000 for gross rents of $1,650. If you do the math on that that's a gross return I've almost 20%. Taking this data back to the people that invested with me I said "let's go all out and buy as much as we can."

A year-and-a-half later I've gone through a little over $400,000 and money over multiple requests back to the original investors, and was able to buy a total of 18 units with gross rents of approx $10k/mo. Our ongoing costs were about $4,000 per month in taxes, insurance, R&M and Capex. One of the decisions I had made during this time was to plan the business as a 'big business' rather than a small one, and hired a few full-time repair guys. One of the things that I had been told by many landlords was that their #1 expense was ongoing maintenance. Hiring someone full-time worker for $15/hr in my eyes was a much better plan than paying a HVAC/Plumber/Electrician $40-$50/hr on piecemeal work.

For better or worse, this increased my ongoing costs substantially when the work ran out, so the only real option was to fire my full time or grow.....So I grew!

A little before the end of the first batch of 18 properties, one of the staff writers from BiggerPockets had reached out to do an article on my journey of buying rentals and it had a pretty decent number of views. I managed to get quite a few emails/calls about it, and one email was essentially a "Hey, I like what you're doing in Ohio, if you want some money, let me know".

I felt like I had stumbled into the first group of guys, so stumbling into another investor was very unlikely so I contacted back and said something like "Hey, I can use some money, there's a duplex for $52.5k I'm looking at , if you're interested in it, I'll set up a new LLC that you can fund". Low and behold, 2 weeks later I've opened up a new LLC, a new bank account and there's a princely sum of $60k in there to buy more rentals.

Then a month later, I find a duplex being auctioned on a street I already have 4 others with no reserve. I manage to win said duplex for $9,500 without having any sort of funding set up. I contacted the investor again and told him about what I had won at auction. My rehab estimate came in at a little under $20k, and he was floored that I could find a livable, cashflowing duplex under $30k with repairs. He wired the money again and hopped on a plane to meet me in person (This was all done on email/phone calls/texts). Impressed by the fact that there was actually a duplex in Ohio that existed like that, he agreed to fund whatever else I could find.

This took me up to 47 rentals. 

By this point I'm starting to become very active in our local REIA, attending every single meeting available, having lunch every so often with local landlords, and getting to know all the big players on a personal level.

At this time, people contact me regularly about going in together to buy rentals, I accept only two and turn down quite a few others - Interestingly enough the landlord that kicked us out of the house when I was 6 partners with me on multiple purchases.

Between 2016 and today, the bread & butter of my good deals are landlords who do a terrible job. Although virtually all of them have built some really good empires of properties, many have become inefficient as time goes on pushing down their values. I've been able to swoop in and purchase quite a few deals off of landlords who have had a very hard time selling due to how poor their management has been.

In general I work mostly with investors as most banks I talk to hate me. One bank turned me down because (As they stated) "No one in their right mind would buy so many rentals". I've found a FEW banks that like what I do, but with one I'm very close to hitting their FDIC limit on loans, so very likely by March I'll hit the limit and be seeking another small bank that has an appetite for rental properties.

Although I primarily rely on private money, I've tried to expand what I do and have even done a few (Extremely profitable might I add?) seller financed deals.

I currently manage all 90 rentals myself, although I do have a 3hr/wk person administrate billing/mail. I do continue to employ 2 full-time workers doing all my ongoing R&M and initial rehab on new acquisitions. Having bought 40 rentals in under a year it put us REALLY behind on things so right now I've got 3 different crews working on projects including the two full timers.

In October I purchased 2 laundromats for some reason which are being re-done as we speak, hoping to open March the 1st. Working with a completely new industry has been extremely interesting. There's good deal of overlap between business and it seems like being able to maintain accounting, marketing and knowing how to work with people helps everything.

As far as ACTUAL work goes, I'm working 20hrs a week on maintaining my rentals and another 20hr on initial rehabs/looking at deals/networking. My schedule is pretty much a solid 10am(ish) to 6pm(ish) work schedule. Granted there's plenty of days I don't go to the office in the morning, and some days I head out just to hang out with landlords and look at properties while doing all my management from my cell phone.

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Rental Property Investor · NY · Member since 2018 · 571 posts · 332 votes
7y

@Brandon Schlichter congrats on your success story. very very inspiring! i hope you can continue to grow.

One thing I wonder is most of your investment is done via private money.  How do you make money? do you charge incentive/management fee? Are you "property manager" of these units as well?  

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  • Flipper/Rehabber · Nampa, ID · Member since 2019 · 12 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter

    Wow! This is just the inspiration I need! I am literally in the beginning of just ideas so far of wanting to jump into the real estate thing. It’s these posts that fire me up and help me along the way! Thank you so much for sharing your very personal true story for the rest of us! And congratulations on your success brotha!

  • Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    WOW! Thanks for sharing your story @Brandon Schlichter! I am a landlord as well with only 3 properties so far. THIS IS VERY INSPIRING!

  • Real Estate Agent · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2018 · 9 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    Great story, thanks for sharing!

  • New Boston, MI · Member since 2016 · 54 posts · 31 votes
    7y

    great read.

  • Rental Property Investor · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2017 · 45 posts · 25 votes
    7y

    @Brandon sch

    @Brandon Schlichter Congratulations and thanks for sharing!

  • Wilsonville, OR · Member since 2018 · 22 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Hi Brandon!

    This is awesome!  You have done very well for yourself.  I have a question for you though.  Why are you managing all those properties by yourself?  Why not hire someone to do it for you?

    Thanks for sharing your story.  It was very motivating!

    Have a lovely day!

    Health, Happiness & Blessings!

    Jami

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    Great story. Revive your real estate blog and share the URL. 

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    7y
    What matters is you delivering profits to your investors. Ignore the busy bodies. 

    Originally posted by @Brandon Schlichter:
    Originally posted by @Jarrod Senechal:

    Very cool, a story that doesn't involve accidental success due to the timing of the recession or large amounts of start up money. This is something everyone can do. 

     What's funny I posted my story elsewhere and got the exact opposite. 

    I had multiple people complain that because I went out and solicited investment from people that it really isn't my success and I'm hanging on the coattails of a bunch of other people. 

  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Happy for your success.

    But for most investors, your pace of acquisition is very difficult. 

    The biggest obstacle to growing fast, for most of us, is the capital requirement.  Properties are expensive and quite a large sum of capital is required to grow to a large level.  Raising capital from other investors, both as partners or those wishing a passive return will be needed.  Plus getting end loans on the property.  Be careful on being over leveraged.  You will need some cash reserve if something comes up.  And it usually does.

    For those who are newer investors, I would curtail your ambitions and move a bit slower. You have to go up the learning curve to understand all aspects of the business.  Especially construction. And you need an organization in place as you grow bigger. 3rd party management can be disappointing sometimes.

    Remember that real estate investing is a long term plan.  So accumulating consistently over time is the way most people grow.

  • Susan NaftulinBusiness Member
    Rosemont, PA · Member since 2013 · 14 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    A really great depiction of the fearlessness it takes to make big moves -- balanced with smart planning! Congratulations!

  • Member since 2018 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter an awesome and inspiring story for someone just starting out in Ohio as well! Cheers to your success!

  • Kingwood, TX · Member since 2018 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter wow! What an inspirational story. Thank you fo sharing!

  • Investor · Centralia, IL · Member since 2016 · 43 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    Thanks for sharing your story, interesting and educational. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Napa, CA · Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 14 votes
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter kudos sir!  Your determination and initiative are inspiring.  I've been sitting on the sidelines as a wannabe for faaaar too long.  Your story is a real kick in the pants for me to lose the fear and get after it!  Thanks for sharing.

  • Rental Property Investor · Saratoga Springs, NY · Member since 2010 · 24 posts · 8 votes
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter great story! Can I ask how you found these great deals?

  • Lender · Oakbrook, IL · Member since 2018 · 34 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    That's amazing. 

  • Contractor · Member since 2018 · 9 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter wonderful story an great turnout, wow can you teach me??

  • Lawrence, KS · Member since 2015 · 33 posts · 15 votes
    7y

    Wow! Congrats on your very exiting investment journey.......more success to you!!!

  • Real Estate Agent · Circleville, OH · Member since 2008 · 633 posts · 488 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jason Mergl:

    @Brandon Schlichter great story! Can I ask how you found these great deals?

    Mostly just networking/talking to landlords as well as social media.

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 483 posts · 956 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Brandon Schlichter:
    Originally posted by @Jason Mergl:

    @Brandon Schlichter great story! Can I ask how you found these great deals?

    Mostly just networking/talking to landlords as well as social media.

     Great story Brandon, lived in one of those old farm houses southeast of Columbus until age 7. 

    As for deals it's easy once you network with landlords, contractors and service companies. I get calls a couple times a week from people who know I buy houses. 

  • San Francisco, CA · Member since 2018 · 62 posts · 20 votes
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter

    Great story!! As a new investor with some equity in my first home, what advice do you have for me in funding first time rental? Heloc or refinancing? Any out of state suggestion since I’m in the San Francisco Bay Area. Thanks

  • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2014 · 408 posts · 209 votes
    7y

    @Brandon Schlichter great story. Thanks for sharing, congrats on the success and good luck going forward!

    @Jarrod Senechal interesting take. Have you ever read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell? He talks about how the uber-successful (the "outliers") all were beneficiaries of serendipity, coincidence, hand-of-g-d, whatever you want to call it. In a nutshell, people who were massively successful no doubt have skills, knowledge and work ethic, but were in the right place at the right time in order to take advantage of an opportunity presented (or, even, an opportunity created).

    If Brandon's story would've been 6 years earlier (not even considering what may have been if he was 6 years older), meaning he really got into RE in 2006-07 instead of 2012-13 (I may have the timeline off), it may have worked itself out differently. I think timing had a lot to do with his success.

    I guess that's a long winded way to say I disagree in part :).

    But I think Gladwell overemphasizes the chance circumstances in which each successful person was placed and underestimates the ability and/or work ethic to capitalize on opportunity. Brandon's story epitomizes one's hard work, dedication, constant growth, and the ability to grab an opportunity by the horns and own it, and not merely be beneficiary of timing. So I definitely agree in part also :)

  • Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    can you help a newbie investor find funding, and show me how to locate such deals? I had invested $400,000 in promissory notes, pretty much all my wife and I had. They were supposed to be short term, and afterwards, we were going to continue buying SFH. Make a long story short, the investment was a scam, (you can find some info here, or Google EquityBuild )and now I am trying to come out of retirement to make a full time income, which isn't working too well.

    We are desperate. Foolishly, I strong armed my wife into agreeing to mortgage our primary home, in order to have more to invest. Now, it’s all at risk. You make this sound so easy. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Circleville, OH · Member since 2008 · 633 posts · 488 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Simcha Davidman:

    @Brandon Schlichter great story. Thanks for sharing, congrats on the success and good luck going forward!

    @Jarrod Senechal interesting take. Have you ever read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell? He talks about how the uber-successful (the "outliers") all were beneficiaries of serendipity, coincidence, hand-of-g-d, whatever you want to call it. In a nutshell, people who were massively successful no doubt have skills, knowledge and work ethic, but were in the right place at the right time in order to take advantage of an opportunity presented (or, even, an opportunity created).

    If Brandon's story would've been 6 years earlier (not even considering what may have been if he was 6 years older), meaning he really got into RE in 2006-07 instead of 2012-13 (I may have the timeline off), it may have worked itself out differently. I think timing had a lot to do with his success.

    I guess that's a long winded way to say I disagree in part :).

    But I think Gladwell overemphasizes the chance circumstances in which each successful person was placed and underestimates the ability and/or work ethic to capitalize on opportunity. Brandon's story epitomizes one's hard work, dedication, constant growth, and the ability to grab an opportunity by the horns and own it, and not merely be beneficiary of timing. So I definitely agree in part also :)

    I helped my brother buy rentals at the top of the market in 06 to 07 when I was a new agent. Those properties are still profitable today. The reason he/I were unable to go farther after the crash was because we couldn't figure out how to get money without using alt-a financing like we did during the bubble lead up. 

    So no, it didn't play out differently. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Circleville, OH · Member since 2008 · 633 posts · 488 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Michael Curcio:

    can you help a newbie investor find funding, and show me how to locate such deals? I had invested $400,000 in promissory notes, pretty much all my wife and I had. They were supposed to be short term, and afterwards, we were going to continue buying SFH. Make a long story short, the investment was a scam, (you can find some info here, or Google EquityBuild )and now I am trying to come out of retirement to make a full time income, which isn't working too well.

    We are desperate. Foolishly, I strong armed my wife into agreeing to mortgage our primary home, in order to have more to invest. Now, it’s all at risk. You make this sound so easy. 

    It isn't easy, and to be honest if you were unable to determine the $400k deal was a scam I would be very, very, very hard pressed to mortgage an asset I had to try and do something again. I only like buying things I can touch. 

    I get calls all the time from people asking me to invest in their projects. One guy about 6mo was asking for like 'just $50k' and after I told him no, he asked for a list of reasons why. One of the ones on the list was 'because you're too far for me to easily show up at your house around midnight with a baseball bat to collect my money if I think you've abused it'. Scared him a bit, but alot of people accepting investment I believe don't realize how hard it is to make it in the first place. 

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