MY FIRST FLIP!!! COME FOLLOW MY JOURNEY!

MY FIRST FLIP!!! COME FOLLOW MY JOURNEY!

Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes

I did a post about my first rental purchase here (https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/223/topics/67...) which took place last month. During the time of acquiring the rental property I also came across an opportunity to purchase a property in my hometown. I really wanted to make this a BRRRR property but it would not have worked due to numbers. This thread will follow my journey. I will try to update as much as possible. Enjoy!

HOW DID I FIND IT?

I started a side handyman business several years ago to bring home extra income and have my wife stay home with the kids. One of my customers asked me to meet her at another home to give a bid on stopping some water leaks. When I walked into the house I could not believe what I saw! It was a disaster! The entire kitchen floor was bubbled up due to water getting into the particle board.. No one lived in the place and unfortunately she had allowed some homeless folks to set up camp in the back yard. My gears started turning immediately that this house could be BRRRR or flipped.

I began to ask questions about the place and its story and her plan with the place. I learned that it belonged to her husband and 5 other heirs through a trust. No one had lived in the place for several years but was still full of everything her inlaws had owned. Homeless folks were using it for cooking and bathing. Place smelled wonderful J. She let me know they planned on selling it and were talking to a realtor about placing it on the market. I let her know right then I would be interested in purchasing it and would like to entertain owner finance if they were up for it. I assumed since they were heirs that there was not a mortgage on the place at this point.

PARTNERSHIP:

Since this would be my first flip and learning from the podcasts that most people loose money on their first flip I decided to reach out to a local investor. I wanted to make sure I made something on this deal. I asked if they would be interested in partnering in this deal if it were to materialize. They would help guide me through the process in exchange for part of the profit. They agreed and walked the property with me to give a ballpark rehab number of around 40K. Using this number I learned that trying to use the BRRRR method and pull my money out would not pencil out. Local rent to price ratios are too large, I would have had to keep substantial amount in the deal after Refi for rent to cover mortgage payments. So that was out the door.

THE DEAL:

I learned from my customer that her brother in law was the trustee of the trust. She had talked to him and they indeed were willing to do owner finance. SCORE!! I would use my HELOC from my personal residence to fund the rehab. ARV is 245,000. The Terms were:

Purchase price: 155,000

Down payment: 5,000

Interest rate: 4% (interest only)

Loan to be paid in full within 1 year

No prepayment penalty

Purchased as is

I was stoked!! Creative financing on my first flip! We opened escrow and were on our merry way. UNTIL, I received a phone call from Title Company stating that the trustee did not have the power to make a loan with this trust. There was no language on the trust that allowed business to be carried out in the trusts name and so title would not issue title insurance for the property. DANG!! I would have to get signatures from all 6 heirs stating that they were ok financing the loan to proceed. I talked to owners about this, they were on board but unfortunately one of the heirs had been MIA for several years and no one knew where he was at. Last they heard he was living on the streets or on a farm somewhere. After two months of asking questions and looking around we finally found him. His family members tracked him down and I got a notarized signature. THANK GOD! Couple weeks later we closed escrow and the place was ours!

JOB SCOPE:

Home is located in a C or C+ neighborhood. With the low price point we planned to do as little rehab as possible. Job scope included:

Haul off all trash on the place

New kitchen

New bathroom

Laminate floor in kitchen/dining room

New carpet in bedrooms

Complete interior paint

Complete exterior paint

New vinyl windows

Clean up shady electrical work

GETTING STARTED:

Being handy myself I thought about doing as much of the work myself to save money. However I also know time is money and the market is slowing down here. I want to get this thing on the marked ASAP. I work full time and run a handyman business on the side so my time is limited to Sundays. I decided to let go of the reins and let the contractor do what he does best.

I hired two friends and within 2 days time 90 percent demo was complete and the house was pretty much cleared out. I hauled three 16’x8’ trailer loads to the dump to start with. By the time its all said and done I will have 10 trailer loads of garbage between inside demo and cleaning up the homeless camp outside. I enjoy doing clean up jobs, beats sitting behind a desk for 8 hours a day and I am a neat freak. Just watch out for those drug needles!

WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE:

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Flipper/Rehabber · Fort Lauderdale-Miami-Boca Raton, FL · Member since 2017 · 130 posts · 65 votes
7y

@Kevin Moules with motivation like you stated, you will succeed! I wish you the best and I'll continue following this thread for your updates. 

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  • los angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 56 posts · 11 votes
    7y

    Looks great and thanks for all your shares, Kevin !  Good luck this weekend.  I'd be interested to see a spreadsheet once this is sold, as you've been quite transparent.  Lightly researching surrounding areas myself but probably staying on sidelines for now... Good luck !

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Max Pallatt, thank you! We have some showings scheduled already according my my realtor. Regarding the spreadsheet I had not thought about that at all. I have never been one for transparency in the past, however as I read in Michael Zubers book you will not be rewarded for being silent in this business. At days end its just numbers to share. I will highly consider it!

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Mindy Jensen, or another admin. Can we move my thread over to the Investor Deal Diaries area? I did not see that forum when I originally created this thread. That would be the correct area for it. Please let me know. BTW Mindy you are awesome! Thanks

  • Rental Property Investor · Leander, TX · Member since 2018 · 183 posts · 264 votes
    7y

    Great thread. Love seeing the before, during, and after pictures. Appreciate the transparency. Thanks for posting, and best of luck in future deals! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    Update! We put it on the market and within a week we had 2 full price offers. We countered the offers and one of the buyers backed out. Currently moving forward with the other buyer after accepting their best offer. We are praying the buyer does not back out for some reason during inspection process. Hoping by end of June we will have this one in the books! Ill keep you posted as always!

  • Rental Property Investor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2018 · 52 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    Do you mind sharing that color of gray?  Great job!

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Andrew George Dennis, I will have to ask my partner as she chose colors. 

    We are in escrow! If all goes well we should close June 13th and hopefully sooner!

    On my part, its not over until the check cashes, then we will celebrate!

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Andrew George Dennis, it is called Mega Greige by Mr. Sherman Williams.

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    Rental Property Investor · Hillsboro, OR · Member since 2018 · 117 posts · 64 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Kevin Moules:

    Well folks here she is in all her HD glory!! Got to love professional photographers!

    List of $279,950

    https://www.redfin.com/CA/Turlock/800-Julian-St-95...

     Looks amazing Kevin. Great job man.

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    IT IS FINISHED!!!!!! First flip complete and in the books. We closed escrow on Friday. I drove by Friday afternoon and new owners were already moving in. Honestly kind of sad knowing I may never step in that house again. A lot of sweat, blood, and tears were involved with that place, tears compliments of my wife :) . But it is awesome to know we made a good profit on our first flip thanks to the guidance of a wonderful partner, and awesome sales agent. Also blessed to sell at the right time of year as well as the market being hot for sellers.

    Here are the final numbers:

    Sold Price: 280,000

    Purchase price: 155,000

    Rehab/Construction costs: 58,502

    Holding costs: 4,729

    Selling costs: 16,628

    Net Profit: 44,475

    Partner: n/a

    As you may recall we brought in a local investor to guide us through this journey. I am not disclosing what our agreement was for their sake and privacy. I will say that we are not going to be taking 44K to the bank but we ended up with a profit and that was important to me!

    Thank you all for your comments and support along the way. Time to find another one to finish by years end. Currently have a neighbor of my parents who's mother has abandoned her home and its been broken into over the last year or so with no one watching it. Ill be reaching out tomorrow to see if they may be interested in selling it! 

    If your interested in learning about my first BRRRR deal that we are currently in the middle of a rehab on check it out here:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/522/topics/70...

  • Member since 2019 · 9 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    Yay! Congratulations! Thank you for letting us follow you on your journey!  It looks great.

  • Member since 2019 · 14 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Thanks for this post!

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Account Closed, thank you! I pray your search for a flip property turns something up sooner rather than later for you guys! It was great meeting you guys the other night. I hope you guys come back, i know its a drive :(. Would love my wife to talk to you!

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Ruben Morgan, your welcome!

    Currently pursuing another lead for a flip property.

  • Rental Property Investor · Peekskill, NY · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 11 votes
    7y

    @Kevin moules  congrats. You did great and thanks for sharing

  • San Francisco, Bay Area · Member since 2019 · 37 posts · 23 votes
    7y

    Awesome! Thanks for sharing Kevin, good luck with your future adventures!

  • Rental Property Investor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2018 · 52 posts · 9 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Kevin Moules:

    @Andrew George Dennis, it is called Mega Greige by Mr. Sherman Williams.

     Thanks for sharing this!

  • Madison, TN · Member since 2019 · 30 posts · 17 votes
    7y

    Congratulations @Kevin Moules!!! This is really inspiring/useful information. I am considering a rehab fix/flip in a C neighborhood where homes are older and property valuation hasn't been done since 2016 (town is on a 5 year assessment cycle). The property can be GREAT, but I am very concerned about "overbuilding the neighborhood" and being able to sell. What did you do to feel confident you could sell at the final price given the type of neighborhood? Any input/thoughts you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Congrats Again! - Shardae

  • Rental Property Investor · Turlock, CA · Member since 2018 · 226 posts · 147 votes
    7y

    @Andrew George Dennis, your welcome! I really enjoy documenting my projects. Check out my first BRRRR thread as well.

    @Shardae Robinson, glad you found it helpful. Regarding the price, I typically used Redfin and look at recently sold homes in the nearby area to get a feel for what the home could be worth. I also reached out to a realtor to pull Comps in the area so we could come up with the listing price. 

    As far as being careful on overbuilding, that's a tricky one. You need to know your town and it seems like you are in a C neighboorhood. Go online to Redfin or Zillow and look at the places that are currently for sale in the area. Look through the listing pictures and pay attention to the types of finishes/appliances/flooring/ ect. that are in the homes being sold. Most in my area were not rehabbed houses, they are being sold by the owner so they are not shiny new. Just by having everything new but not over the top will put you ahead.

    Lastly, that is why I highly recommend partnering with a local investor who has a track record of flipping homes. Pay them for their experience. Split the profit, that way the better the deal does the better you both do in the end. They should help guide the project to make sure you do not overbuild for the location. Hope that helps!

  • Madison, TN · Member since 2019 · 30 posts · 17 votes
    7y

    Super helpful @Kevin Moules! Thanks for being so willing to share your experience and insights. It's greatly appreciated!

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