My 4 Year Journey from 0 to 778 units!

My 4 Year Journey from 0 to 778 units!

Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes

Four years ago today I was wandering through life thinking I had made it. I was working a corporate 9-5 job, good pay and would use my 10 days of PTO for the amazing 1 week getaways. Jan 1st 2017 happened to be the last day of a vacation, my wife and I had enjoyed our Christmas and NYE. But then something came over me, I realized even after receiving a promotion at work that I was no happier. Not that I was miserable I just felt lost, I was wandering through life like the 99% of individuals we surround ourselves with.

Then something happened, I picked up Rich Dad Poor Dad and finished the entire book in one sitting. At first I was upset that no one ever told me about utilizing leverage and purchasing assets. The next thought was I needed to make a change not just for myself but for my family.

Fast forward to today I currently have 778 rental units across 40 buildings, an in house property management company and a newly founded hard Money Lending Company.

(Due to the rise of the syndication model unit count is often much less impressive than ones actual ownership. Our current model is syndicating about 25% of our projects with the remainder of our projects closing in a Joint Venture/Partnership. My overall ownership percentage is approximately 20%. Some I own as little as 7.5% others 100% just depends on the project.)

Before I go over the steps I took to get here, I want to highlight steps in finding a partner and expectations one should have.

PARTNERSHIPS!

  1. Make sure you enjoy the persons company! Good luck making a $1 million purchase with someone you can’t stand.
  2. Share in common goals. Ask yourself what do you want to accomplish? Is this goal shared with your partner?
  3. Morals/Ethics: Real estate just like money can expose both the positive and negative things in people. Make sure to find a partner that you trust with all of your information. At some point your partner will know your net worth, social security number, and you will share many bank accounts. Last thing you want is someone with a gambling problem that bets your operating account on black.
  4. Have regular conversations. A partnership, like marriage will mean that there is compromise and this can only occur if you are talking regularly to one another.
  5. Tasks, “who does what”? This is the most common question, and it does not have a straightforward answer. A partnership has to be fluid within its relationship, sometimes one will have to pick up the ball if the other partner gets bogged down. Each partner should adapt to determining what their best strength is. Something to note is that real estate has many different tasks that occur at different times. One partner may do 90% of the underwriting portion then the other partner will end up doing 80% of the asset management, this is ok and means the partners are gravitating to their strengths.
  6. Do Not partner with anyone who is:
  7. Lazy
  8. Untrustworthy
  9. Does not take accountability
  10. Looking to make a quick buck
  11. Thinks they know it all
  12. Unwilling to except criticism

Here are some of the steps I took to get to this point in my real estate journey.

Step 1 (Education): Read and listen to as many books and podcasts as possible. Below are the books I have read and/or listened to (real estate and business):

This is the most important step in your journey, you must be constantly educating yourself! If you don’t like to read, listen or educate yourself than unfortunately you will likely not find much success (although I am sure there are those out there that have succeeded without).

Rich Dad Poor Dad, Millionaire Real Estate Investor, Multi- Family Millions (Dave Lindahl), ABC’s of Real Estate Investing, The Book on Rental Property Investing, Hold, The Advanced Guide to Real Estate Investing, The Due Diligence Handbook for Commercial Real Estate, Millionaire Real Estate Agent, The Book on Managing Rental Properties (Brandon Turner), The Emyth Revistited

Crushing It in Apartments and Commercial Real Estate, Emerging Real Estate Markets ,The ABC’s of Property Management, Wheelbarrow Profits, The One Thing, Outliers, Start with Why, David and Goliath, Chasing Excellence, Extreme Ownership, The Compound Effect, The Entrepreneur Roller Coaster, Be Obsessed or Be Average, The 10x Rule, The Obstacle is the Way, Ego is the Enemy, Am I Being Too Subtle, 48 Laws of Power, Atlas Shrugged, Man’s Search For Meaning, Sapiens, Tools of Titans, Four Hour Work Week, Who Not How, Shoe Dog, Ride of a Lifetime, The Honey Bee, Living with a Seal, 10% Happier, Relentless, Zero to One, Can’t Hurt Me.

Step 2 (financing): To get a better idea of what I was capable of purchasing, I met with four different lenders and began a relationship to acquire funding. I decided to open a HELOC on my primary residence, this allowed me to have access to capital if I came across an available deal.

***How did I choose the lenders? I choose a larger bank (better rates), two local banks (less restrictions, and one in which I already banked.

Creative Financing:

  • HELOC – Home Equity Line of Credit.
  • Seller Carry – Have the seller use a portion of their proceeds to cover a portion or all of the downpayment.
  • Hard Money to cover full cost of purchase.
  • Bridge loan (A lender who will lend the amount between the actual loan and down payment). The lender will typically take a 2nd position lien.
  • Utilizing acquisition fees to cover your portion of a down payment (typically done in deals with a partner).
  • Utilizing assigned insurance funds to act as a credit at closing.
  • Asking for a credit at closing for upcoming repairs (typically seller will increase purchase price and then the difference will be a check or credit to the down payment).
  • Transactional funds: House Flipping and Wholesaling.
  • Refinance Funds – BRRRR
  • Leveraging a promissory note from another investor who is in the deal. Example the investor has $200k, rather than syndicating or having them invest all $200k as equity do the following: $100k goes towards equity the other $100k is a loan in which my group utilizes as equity into the project. Very similar to seller financing except the funds are coming from another investor.

Step 3 (network with everyone): During my lunch breaks at work and in between changing diapers I would call/text anyone I knew or didn’t know to discuss real estate. Friends, brokers, lenders, attorneys. Anyone who either had a relationship to investing or was a person I looked up to based on their successes.

Find everyone in your network that is smarter than you and begin networking and explaining your goals. They likely know other smart people and those smart people will know someone who invests in real estate (Because smart people invest in real estate… just like A=B B=C A=C)!

As I have grown in my investing career I have come to realize that attending conferences and joining masterminds is necessary for continued growth. Do not focus on the price tag of the coaching, rather focus on the results that it can bring. It takes only one deal to recoup the cost of joining a mastermind and can lead to long lasting relationships.

*****I can't underscore how important networking is, I was able to link up with an experienced first partner who helped (and still helps) guide me through REI.

Step 4 (analyze deals and market): Analyzing multiple deals everyday as well as market rents for the areas I was targeting. I regularly searched through Zillow, realtor.com, Loopnet, Crexi and Trulia. I used these sites to find properties for sale, current rents, as and look over previously sold properties.

TOP 3 things I look for in finding a deal:

  1. Does the property pay for the residents’ utilities? If so this creates an opportunity to billback the owner.
  2. Are the rents under market (this is obvious but important to note).
  3. Is there an opportunity to add features that will increase the properties value? Extra bedroom, in unit laundry, or converting a leasing office into an apartment.

Step 5 (leads): Immediately I realized that going about finding a deal through Zillow was nearly impossible and that brokers are not incredibly willing to spend time handing off deals to a newbie. So…. What did I do?

  1. Started posting on Biggerpockets (I received my first deal through a BP real estate agent)!
  2. Downloaded a list of multi family owners from Listsource.com
  3. After receiving the list I searched for phone numbers and began looking up every property (assessors website and Zillow) and becoming familiar with the neighborhoods. I would also walk the neighborhoods and properties over my lunch break and on my drive to and from work. (this is before I made a call or sent out any letters).
  4. Once I had a decent understanding of my criteria I began hand writing letters (191 to be exact) and calling the phone numbers I was able to gather online.

*****This was the catalyst to me finding deals and launching my career***** I was able to do six deals from that initial list.

  1. Create dynamic dialogues with brokers and wholesalers. Not everyone is going to provide you results, but with the right questions every resource should provide value.

Step 6 (start networking group): After attending the local REIA a few times and receiving a lot of value I realized that starting another group would bring at least twice the value. With the help of many I began a networking group which now after 3 years has over 2000 members and regular attendance of 100+ individuals a meeting.

Alright well as I write this its January 1st of 2021, lets all create concrete goals and dream big. As some of my favorite mentors say Education X Action = Massive Results!

Please let me know if you have questions or how I can help!

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Syndicator of Large Apartment Buildings · Glen Mills, PA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
5y

@Collin Schwartz AWESOME and I am so proud of you!!

I really appreciate your post and everything you shared.

I have had a similar journey by quitting my CPA job and buying large apartment deals. This year (2021) I am buying a 1,000 unit apartment complex.

This is a very powerful formula:

Education X Action** = Massive Results!

**I love this and as you and I both know it works. 

My only suggestion, the "Actions" need to be congruent or aligned with your "WHY".

I define the "WHY" as your purpose, mission, goal, or the desired outcome. The WHY also needs to be wrapped with emotion and passion. AND the clearer you are on your WHY, it will give you soooooo much more clarity and focus to get the Actions done.

Let's crush 2021!!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2020 · 1 post · 0 votes
    5y

    @Collin Schwartz The story of your journey was very well received and very much appreciated. I aspire to your success! Thank you!

  • Investor · Clinton, MI · Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 7 votes
    5y

    @Collin Schwartz congratulations! That was the book that started our journey too. It amazes me what we are not taught! Best of luck!

  • Ian WalshBusiness Member
    Lender · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    That is quite a run.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Memphis, TN · Member since 2020 · 758 posts · 285 votes
    5y

    Great work @Collin Schwartz 

    Great share you have

  • PE · Member since 2020 · 41 posts · 19 votes
    5y

    @Brian Adams

    Would you say a goal of making 10K a month just on passive income be a reasonable “WHY”? That’s what I’m aiming for and just making sure it’d fit the criteria of this.

  • Charlotte, NC · Member since 2020 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    5y

    @Collin Schwartz

    Awesome story. How do you structure your business as far as employees go? What’s your end goal referring to having your business run on its own like a machine without too much “pushing” from you? Thanks!

  • Syndicator of Large Apartment Buildings · Glen Mills, PA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Devon Keaveny I think the 10k a month is a good start, but it needs more "juice".

    To give you a quick example of my WHY, as a CPA I was working really hard for someone else. Working 80 to 90 hours a week during tax time.

    One year when I stopped and counted the minutes, I was able to see my girls and wife, about 10-15 minutes a day…leaving early in the morning, getting home late, working weekends.

    This was an awakening for me.

    I had a sick feeling in my stomach, the thought of spending so much time working and missing out on my girls growing up. 

    What if they think I’m a terrible parent? Do they even know who their Dad is?

    So my “juice”, my WHY, purpose, whatever you want to call it, was to figure out a way to quit my CPA job and at the same time make money to support my family.

    I hope this is helpful…

  • PE · Member since 2020 · 41 posts · 19 votes
    5y

    @Brian Adams

    Thank you Brian, this is very helpful.

  • Realtor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2013 · 134 posts · 59 votes
    5y

    First, thank you for sharing this and your experiences and knowledge.  Second, I also live in Papillion!  Funny, I have not been on this site in a couple of years, and this year, I decided to get back into investing and one of the first posts I saw is yours.  And then I saw you live here - ironic.  Would love to pick your brain!  So much has changed just in the last two - three years.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Killeen, TX · Member since 2017 · 338 posts · 100 votes
    5y

    @Collin Schwartz Thank you for posting your story. It seems like an amazing journey. Sharing your story and providing tips along the way really helps out those who want to learn. I've done most of what you mentioned except I'm lagging on the networking part (which as you mentioned, happens to be the most important one). Can I ask, what do you specifically do when you contact people? Is it to, partner, be mentored, look for deals..? 

    Thank you again! Good luck on your investing journey!

  • Utica NY · Member since 2020 · 7 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    @Patrick Britton because using leverage or financing, you own that thing that you financed. When a bank loans money to you to buy a property, they don't own 80% versus your 20% down. They don't own anything, they just loaned you money. They do have collateral on the loan which is typically said property, but the lendee is the owner. Am I on the right track here?

  • Specialist · Plano, TX · Member since 2020 · 2k+ posts · 861 votes
    5y

    Your story is so inspiring to anyone starting out, and even for those looking for a bit of motivation, @Collin Schwartz.  Thanks for sharing all of your tips and advice on how to succeed in this space. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    @Adrian Fajardo very simply I look to make a connection, listen and if I can provide value. Often times the deals, money, or mentorship will come after.

  • New to Real Estate · New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 234 posts · 264 votes
    5y

    @Collin Schwartz

    This is a great post!!!! I have heard so much great things about you from Jake & Gino community! Let's crush 2021!! 

  • Member since 2020 · 20 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    Thank you for posting your journey.  I like the step by step into real estate investing.  I'm learning a lot from this site.

    Best of luck continuing to grow in 2021!

  • Rental Property Investor · Killeen, TX · Member since 2017 · 338 posts · 100 votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Collin Schwartz:

    @Adrian Fajardo very simply I look to make a connection, listen and if I can provide value. Often times the deals, money, or mentorship will come after.

    Thank you for getting back to me. I'm gonna get right to it. I saw your podcast a while back and I can tell you've grown your portfolio quite fast. I wish you the best of luck! 

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    5y

    @Collin Schwartz thanks for sharing! 

  • Member since 2020 · 12 posts · 4 votes
    5y

    @Collin Schwartz Hi Collin I am terribly sorry for replying late I never noticed you answered my question an I hope I’m not late receiving an answer lol ,My question what would you do with 170k to scale up on real estate your answer means a lot to me you’ve proven yourself through this journey

  • Real Estate Broker · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2021 · 80 posts · 62 votes
    5y

    Wow!! Congratulations on your success so far. Your story is very aspiring, and your goals seem to align perfectly with that of my partner and I. We have been working tirelessly to build up a solid group of LPs to help fund the remainder of our first off-market syndication, and hope to have similar success as you in the field. Any advice for raising capital? I would love to hear what you think.

  • Investor · Brampton, Ontario · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 14 votes
    5y

    Congrats Collin on an Amazing success and sharing of the path you took.

    I am on similar Journey. I have had a lot success on the personal real estate portfolio over the past 20 years and started to JV into Multi family investing

  • Investor · Brampton, Ontario · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 14 votes
    5y

    Congrats Collin on an all the Amazing success you have had and sharing of the path you took.

    I am on similar Journey in Canada. 

    Great article you have pretty much covered everything. 

    Would love to connect will PM you. 

  • Investor · Detroit, MI · Member since 2014 · 97 posts · 40 votes
    5y

    Great information! Thank you for the well written article. I agree having a partner that you can't stand can be very frustrating during the syndication process. 

  • Investor · Brampton, Ontario · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 14 votes
    5y

    Congrats Collin on an all the Amazing success you have had and sharing of the path you took.

    I am on similar Journey in Canada. 

    Great article you have pretty much covered everything. 

    Would love to connect will PM you. 

  • Investor · Vacaville Ca · Member since 2021 · 30 posts · 16 votes
    4y

    Collin,

    Awesome article.  I liked how it was laid out and easy to understand. Definitely gave me some new reading material I didn't know about. Thanks and have a good day.

    Kyle

  • Upper Marlboro, MD · Member since 2016 · 5 posts · 1 vote
    4y

    @Collin Schwartz Great post of your 4 year journey. I am beginning my career as an REI now as of this week! I'm excited and nervous all at once. I've read a large portion of the books you suggested and closed on my first investment property sold it for 60k profit and am trying to figure out how to leverage without using the lion's share of the profit from the sale! How many units do you currently have now? What software do you use to keep track of the units books? Have you thought of transferring the units you own to a Spendthrift Trust/ Land Trust in order to defer the Capital Gains?

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