Best Hard Money Lenders in Canada?

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Member since 2020 · 5 posts · 5 votes
5y

@Steven Wocknitz @Luc Boiron @Julie Toh

In Ontario, and I imagine in the rest of Canada too, hard money lenders (called private lenders in Canada) are not allowed to advertise unless they are licensed mortgage agents. So they are hard to find unless they are family/friends. They must go through mortgage agents! The strategy in Canada is to align yourself with a mortgage agent who has access to private lenders. They will also have access to MICs and B-lenders. B-lenders are somewhere in between A-lenders (banks) and private lenders, and many also work exclusively with mortgage agents. Keep in mind you’ll need some money down. The private lenders and b-lenders I work with are great but all require at least 20% down. 

Bottom line is it’s a bit different in Canada and your best strategy is to add a mortgage agent as part of your “team” along with realtor, lawyer, property manager, etc. 

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  • Specialist · Vancouver, BC · Member since 2016 · 315 posts · 145 votes
    6y

    Hi Steven, the best hard money lender will meet the following:

    1. be willing to work with you (ie lend you the money)

    2. give you the best rate and terms

    3. require minimum paper work from you 

    4. minimum collateral

    5. they have deep pockets

     Once you find a good hard money lender, make sure you treat them right. That way they are willing to work with you over and over again. There is so much more I can write about this. Can you be more specific with your question?

  • Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 5 votes
    6y

    Hey thanks so much for your reply! I was hoping to hear some of the common lenders or institutions that my fellow canadians might commonly use for hard money loans.

  • Specialist · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2016 · 564 posts · 425 votes
    6y

    @Steven Wocknitz hard money lenders in Canada don't call themselves that.
    By far the best you will get are private individuals who are willing to lend. They are hard to find though.
    Our institutions that are similar to hard money lenders are MICs (Mortgage Investment Companies).
    Since financing is already hard for homeowners due to the qualfying rules, the MICs also do a lot of private first and second mortgages to homeowners. I have find the majority of the time the MICs will be accessed through brokers, who charge an additional broker fee. 
    An example of a MIC is Gingko MIC. 
    MICs generally charge a lot in points and have high rates, and typically won't lend above 75%-80% of purchase.
    Some brokers will also have access to private individuals who are willing to lend, which can be more flexible.

  • Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 5 votes
    6y

    Luc, thank you so much, this was extremely helpful and is exaclty what I was wondering! Cheers!

  • Specialist · Vancouver, BC · Member since 2016 · 315 posts · 145 votes
    6y

    @Steven Wocknitz msg me separate and I will connect you with 2 lenders.

  • Specialist · Mortgage Broker Canada · Member since 2015 · 316 posts · 118 votes
    6y

    @Steven Wocknitz It's more common in Canada to call hard money lenders B lenders or non-banks.

    @Luc Boiron mentioned MICs. A mortgage investment corporation, or MIC, is a mortgage investment and lending company in Canada. A MIC manages a portfolio of secure mortgages where individual investors pool their finances to create mortgage loans. Some MICs in Canada may diversify their portfolio to include anything from smaller second residential mortgages to mortgages for commercial development properties.

    I have found in my experience working with B lenders (i have a long list of them) is that each MIC has its own investment strategy. However, unlike property loans from banks that will lend up to 100% of a property’s value, the ideal MIC loan is generally around 60% of a property’s value, and does not exceed 85% for added security. 

    If you are an individual looking for safer and consistent returns for your $$$, with 100% of the net profits returning to you, investing in a MIC might be an option. 

  • Member since 2019 · 1 post · 0 votes
    6y

    Very informative discussion about financing in Canada. I am still in the researching phase. 

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2018 · 11 posts · 1 vote
    6y
    Originally posted by @Huong Luu:

    @Steven Wocknitz msg me separate and I will connect you with 2 lenders.

    I have reached out to you @Houjkng Luu :)

  • Member since 2020 · 5 posts · 5 votes
    5y

    @Steven Wocknitz @Luc Boiron @Julie Toh

    In Ontario, and I imagine in the rest of Canada too, hard money lenders (called private lenders in Canada) are not allowed to advertise unless they are licensed mortgage agents. So they are hard to find unless they are family/friends. They must go through mortgage agents! The strategy in Canada is to align yourself with a mortgage agent who has access to private lenders. They will also have access to MICs and B-lenders. B-lenders are somewhere in between A-lenders (banks) and private lenders, and many also work exclusively with mortgage agents. Keep in mind you’ll need some money down. The private lenders and b-lenders I work with are great but all require at least 20% down. 

    Bottom line is it’s a bit different in Canada and your best strategy is to add a mortgage agent as part of your “team” along with realtor, lawyer, property manager, etc. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2014 · 14 posts · 2 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Huong Luu:

    @Steven Wocknitz msg me separate and I will connect you with 2 lenders.


     I messaged you, thank you :)

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