Growth Equity Group

Growth Equity Group

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Rental Property Investor · KY · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 539 votes

Has anyone here done business with Growth Equity Group?  I received a BP email from a gentleman, stating he is with Growth Equity Group.  It looks like they allow for non-recourse financing and their clients utilize self-directed IRAs.

Any feedback on them, good or bad, is much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2016 · 2 posts · 2 votes
10y

I'm new to investing in real estate.  I have been talking with Growth Equity Group (GEG) about a SDIRA on single family rental home/properties.  They seem dedicated to helping clients, but I would like to know if anyone out there has actually bought property through them to know if it is working out OK.  Returns on paper look really good.

They have provided "Condition Reports" conducted through the property managers that indicates everything is "OK".  However, they do not have any photos of the interior of the dwellings (which seems strange to me, since photos are always available on properties for sale).  They said they would take photos on the next walk-thru (after I have purchased properties).  Another concern is that the 5.5% non-recourse financing jumps to 8% in years 6 & 7, then a balloon payment is due.  They indicate that I could sell one or two properties around year 5 or 6 and then secure a new loan on the remaining.  They highly recommend putting any income stream towards paying down principal in the first 4 or 5 years to increase cash return on selling the home.  So a concern is being able to sell in 5 or 6 years without facing a balloon payment or figuring out how to secure a new loan. 

Another concern is that they have only been in business as GEG since July, 2013, however, the owners have 10+years of previous experience in the business.  The problem is, that it seems it would be better to have had them in GEG for a longer period to show that there 'Model' really works.

I've seen some comments from others, but most are older posts (more than a year ago). Would really appreciate some input.  Thanks.

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  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Lee Moseley:

    All, I was approached by GEG way back in 2013/14 (still have the Offering Memos). I didn't buy as the  product seemed quite high priced for the markets, their "proposed" (never saw rental agreements for "actual") rental rates were also high (hence the lowering over the years, when it should remain stable or go up). Their Annual Income didn't add up to the Rent*12 on their sheets, and didn't include Condo Association Fees. Seemed like they were selling properties they were "flipping" and financing. Well, it's been 5 years, and I checked those same properties (2 of 4 areas/properties, Bridges and Timberwoods), and they are worth FAR less than they were being sold for, when most property went up, so selling in 5-6 years would NOT have made $$, but would have lost. As with Buy & Hold, you should have a Positive Cash Flow (specially with 50% down) and Build Equity (or try to pay off within 15 years).  You don't want your IRA being bled down by Negative Cash Flow! And equity build up (paying off) will accelerate returns down the road or allow you to sell/exchange for larger properties (move from single to duplex/tri/fourplex to 5-20 Units, to 100's of units, etc.).

    Also on a note regarding Value (determining), as a Buyer, I ALWAYS have a professional appraisal done & paid for BY ME (sorry, but I don't trust sellers/owner/agents or their appraisers, and certainly don't trust "Market Analysis", except for "ball park" values! As stated Due Diligence, Due Diligence, Due Diligence!! 

     I've had something similar happen to me (except I actually bought a property from them) and plan to detail my experience in a new thread. Stay tuned.

  • Fredericksburg, VA · Member since 2016 · 190 posts · 64 votes
    7y

    Update: https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/656274-growth-equity-group-how-170-investors-were-scammed

  • Investor · CA · Member since 2017 · 91 posts · 16 votes
    7y
  • Investor · Naples, FL · Member since 2016 · 256 posts · 75 votes
    7y

    It is possible to file a complaint with the Cook County attorney general......if they receive enough complaints they will investigate them.

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