How do you know if the market is good to invest?

How do you know if the market is good to invest?

Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 162 posts · 40 votes

I am Constantly searching for deals of course. I have cash reserves just in case a crash does happen and I can basically jump in with that money. What I'm wondering what do you guys look for when it comes to this? Any news outlet? I would like some statistical analytics.

For me right now I just look at the employment rate and see how fair that is.

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Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
4y

Market is not going to crash. There’s no perfect time to buy, you’re just going to have to set a criteria you want and buy that. Time in the market is better than timing the market 

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  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y

    Market is not going to crash. There’s no perfect time to buy, you’re just going to have to set a criteria you want and buy that. Time in the market is better than timing the market 

  • Contractor · Scottsdale, AZ · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    To determine what market is good to invest, you have to share more about your situation. How much money do you have to work with? Are you looking for fix & flip deals or buy & hold deals?

    I have a friend who lives out here in AZ that deploys all of his capital to St Louis because he's looking to acquire a bunch of doors and cash flow.

    I on the other hand won't invest in anything that's more than a 20 minute drive from where I live.

    Neither strategy is a bad one. Just depends on your goals and where you're at in life.

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    4y

    Don't wait for the market to crash (it is unlikely to happen).  Find a property where the numbers work and buy it.  The only time I wouldn't do that is if you are a flipper.  If you are buying for long term hold, don't try to time the market as you will be sitting on the sidelines.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    4y

    As they say above ^^^ don't wait for the market, wait for the right deal. Even if prices go up or down and interest rates go up or down, there are still always great deals out there. Distress sales, divorce sales, fire sales, etc...

    Search for the deal, forget about the market entirely.

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 162 posts · 40 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Eliott Elias:

    Market is not going to crash. There’s no perfect time to buy, you’re just going to have to set a criteria you want and buy that. Time in the market is better than timing the market 


     What would be a good way to start a criteria? 

    Like what would be a good layout?

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 162 posts · 40 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Scott E.:

    To determine what market is good to invest, you have to share more about your situation. How much money do you have to work with? Are you looking for fix & flip deals or buy & hold deals?

    I have a friend who lives out here in AZ that deploys all of his capital to St Louis because he's looking to acquire a bunch of doors and cash flow.

    I on the other hand won't invest in anything that's more than a 20 minute drive from where I live.

    Neither strategy is a bad one. Just depends on your goals and where you're at in life.


      How do you know which market is doing good and which markets to stay out of?

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 162 posts · 40 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

    As they say above ^^^ don't wait for the market, wait for the right deal. Even if prices go up or down and interest rates go up or down, there are still always great deals out there. Distress sales, divorce sales, fire sales, etc...

    Search for the deal, forget about the market entirely.


     What are some of your tools in finding these deal? is propstream one of them?

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Fahadbin Alam:
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

    As they say above ^^^ don't wait for the market, wait for the right deal. Even if prices go up or down and interest rates go up or down, there are still always great deals out there. Distress sales, divorce sales, fire sales, etc...

    Search for the deal, forget about the market entirely.


     What are some of your tools in finding these deal? is propstream one of them?


    The best tool is to get yourself out in the streets and look at properties. I prefer distressed areas that are getting ready to gentrify. You only find these by being there.

  • Rental Property Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Fahadbin Alam:

    I am Constantly searching for deals of course. I have cash reserves just in case a crash does happen and I can basically jump in with that money. What I'm wondering what do you guys look for when it comes to this? Any news outlet? I would like some statistical analytics.

    For me right now I just look at the employment rate and see how fair that is.


     Hi Fahadbin,

    I think it is about waiting for a good deal and knowing when you have one. I do not think the market will crash. It might level out a little but I do not see a crash coming. I think you need to start to analyze deals, find the market you want to purse, and go for it. Just this year I have been able to pick up 12 more deals and have more in contract. The only thing I regret is when I have said no to a deal or not made one happen. 

  • Jared HottleBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Cedar falls IA Waterloo, IA · Member since 2020 · 902 posts · 549 votes
    4y

    As everyone else has said macro items do not matter much for people just getting started. Do the numbers work then do it. Market may go down, rents may go down (unlikely) but but don't let fear drive you. The reason you can make money in real estate is imperfect information. If there was a news station or an algorithm that could do it perfectly all markets would be in equilibrium and there would be no money to be made. Irrational human behavior is what gives us an edge, run your numbers, take as much guesswork out as you can and go for it if you find a solid deal.

  • Jordan MoorheadBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Austin, TX · Member since 2015 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    @Fahadbin Alam I like markets that I know a lot about and that are growing. When it comes to buying criteria in those markets I need to be able to find at least an 8% CoC personally and see upside in the property. I like to know I'm making cashflow and am likely to see appreciation from job growth and people moving to the area.

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2020 · 162 posts · 40 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Steven Foster Wilson:
    Quote from @Fahadbin Alam:

    I am Constantly searching for deals of course. I have cash reserves just in case a crash does happen and I can basically jump in with that money. What I'm wondering what do you guys look for when it comes to this? Any news outlet? I would like some statistical analytics.

    For me right now I just look at the employment rate and see how fair that is.


     Hi Fahadbin,

    I think it is about waiting for a good deal and knowing when you have one. I do not think the market will crash. It might level out a little but I do not see a crash coming. I think you need to start to analyze deals, find the market you want to purse, and go for it. Just this year I have been able to pick up 12 more deals and have more in contract. The only thing I regret is when I have said no to a deal or not made one happen. 


     What are some tools you use to find these deals?

  • Investor · Philadelphia/Charlotte/Raleigh/SD and LA Counties · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 15 votes
    4y

    It is always a good time to get in the market. Most of the tools echo each other. I use spreadsheets and Propstream, Redfin, economic indicators and shifts, population growth, companies/industries coming into an area to make my decisions. But to be completely honest with you, the way that you have phrased the question indicates that you might not be ready, and that's totally fine. You're going to have to submerge yourself a bit so that you can develop hypotheses, ways to test them, a strategy and an investment style.Everyone here has a bias, and asking us questions makes you subject to them. My opinion is that there is a cooling currently happening after a mania phase in the market. And that the conditions contributing to this cooling or as some would say return to normal are FAR different than the last real estate crash...but the market could crash tomorrow and my opinion could be wrong. Nonetheless, best to you on this journey. 

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2020 · 153 posts · 136 votes
    4y

    Hey Fahadbin, we're technically already in a recession so most people react to this word in 2 ways:

    1) Go into defensive mode and look for security.

    2) Go into offensive mode and look to grow aggressively.

    The news is the last place you want to get updates on the market. Anytime you turn on CNN, CNBC, etc, all the news is negative and doomsday.

    Truthfully, the best sources are right here. Stay tuned in to the BP podcast, follow your local market trends and connect with people who are being aggressive in real estate. Those are the ones that are making the market, not hoping and waiting for it to crash.

    Wish you the best.

  • Financial Advisor · San Antonio Texas · Member since 2022 · 100 posts · 53 votes
    4y

    If you're planning on the buy and hold strategy then the best time to invest is today. If you're planning on flipping or STR then you'll need to pay much closer attention to the market.

  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    4y

    If there’s a strong job market and influx of immigration

  • Dave SpoonerPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2020 · 870 posts · 823 votes
    4y

    Hi @Fahadbin Alam

    I agree with Elliott on there's not a perfect time to buy. I don't believe in the market crashing anytime soon. I think we are in a strange time but waiting for the right deal is best. This "right" deal just like others are describing as what your criteria is. It will be different for many folks. Best of luck on your journey. 

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