Wholesaling and House Hacking in Los Angeles

Wholesaling and House Hacking in Los Angeles

Accountant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2020 · 9 posts · 6 votes

Hi BiggerPockets – I’m here hoping to foster new relationships and hear some of you guys’ tips, tricks, and advice.

A little about myself:

I’m originally from Des Moines, Iowa, born and raised, and moved to Los Angeles 3 years ago to pursue my career in public accounting at one of the Big Four Accounting Firms. I earned my BBA and MAc at the University of Iowa in 2015 and 2017.

I started researching and learning about real estate investing in January 2020. I dedicated myself to learning the principles and practices of real estate investing, which included reading three of Brandon Turner’s books, listening to varies real estate podcasts, and as of recently, becoming a BiggerPockets Pro Member. I truly believe real estate is the avenue to generational wealth and financial freedom, and I have a burning passion to purchase and house hack my first property by the end of 2020.

Real Estate Investing Approach:

As all of you know, Los Angeles is among the most expensive cities in the US, which means significantly higher down payments and closing costs. As such, I have developed a strategy to obtain capital—real estate wholesaling! I have derived this strategy through late night readings from Brandon Turner’s “The Book on Investing In Real Estate with No (and Low) Money Down: Real Life Strategies for Investing in Real Estate Using Other People's Money”, Google, and podcasts (Max Maxwell, Side Hustle Pro, and Marco Santarelli). I have estimated that I will need approximately $21,000 to finance a 3.5% down payment and closing costs on a home within the $390,000-$450,000 range. I anticipate that I could raise the capital if I complete 3-4 wholesaling deals. I understand the legality risks of wholesaling and plan to safely navigate the buying and selling process. In addition, I have started using my lunch breaks and weekends to “drive for dollars” in West LA. I am also considering purchasing my first property in the Valley as prices are more affordable per square foot. Given my timeline to purchase a home around Sept/Oct, I am hoping to house hack a home that is readily livable and requires little to no repairs.

Next Steps:

Now that I have obtained a great deal of real estate and wholesaling knowledge, I need some help getting out there and taking actions. From the forum conversations I have read, it looks like discussions are the most helpful are those that are specific. As such, I have provided a list of questions that would surely help my investing process.

1) What are the best ways to build relationships with investors during our COVID-19 pandemic? (I know that you can accomplish your goals with a few investors, however, due to COVID-19 it seems to be harder to foster relationships and build trust).

2) My lease ends in September 2020—Is closing 3-4 wholesaling deals (with no prior experience) and purchasing a home in Sept/Oct, too tight of a deadline? Am I overly optimistic or is this a realistic goal?

3) Do you recommend any locations in the Los Angeles area to “drive for dollars”—that are more likely to have distressed and/or motivated sellers?

4) Where can I obtain wholesaling contracts examples/templates?

5) Per my research, income from wholesaling is taxed as ordinary income. Are there any tax codes (similar to 1031 exchange code) that would help reduce my taxable income from real estate wholesaling? ***My expertise is in public/private auditing and not taxation***

6) I am considering developing an LLC. I do not intend on transferring the property ownership to the LLC, however, wanted to get you guys' input on whether an LLC is beneficial for business operations (i.e. bank account for income and expense, direct deposit for rent from house hacking, etc.)?

7) Overall advice for an ambitious real estate investor?

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Member since 2019 · 67 posts · 11 votes
6y

Hi Caprice! I am a fellow newbie investor in Los Angeles. I plan to wholesale (and later invest) in TN to build capital, learn my market, and to become a pro at finding off market deals for my future buy and hold endeavors. I don't have much to add here except to say that there are tons of LA REI meetings that are connecting over Zoom. Do a search on meetup.com for Los Angeles Real Estate and I think you will find what you are looking for. There are also tons of facebook groups that are extremely helpful. Great questions by the way...I am following this thread so I can benefit from any answers you may receive. ;) Good Luck!

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  • Member since 2019 · 67 posts · 11 votes
    6y

    Hi Caprice! I am a fellow newbie investor in Los Angeles. I plan to wholesale (and later invest) in TN to build capital, learn my market, and to become a pro at finding off market deals for my future buy and hold endeavors. I don't have much to add here except to say that there are tons of LA REI meetings that are connecting over Zoom. Do a search on meetup.com for Los Angeles Real Estate and I think you will find what you are looking for. There are also tons of facebook groups that are extremely helpful. Great questions by the way...I am following this thread so I can benefit from any answers you may receive. ;) Good Luck!

  • Accountant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2020 · 9 posts · 6 votes
    6y

    @Christine Sparks Thank you Christine! I will for sure join some meetup groups as soon as possible! Let’s keep each other posted on new information. Thank you again!

  • Developer · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2020 · 90 posts · 50 votes
    6y

    A long post but I could see you have a plan in place and have done your research. I will be brief to your questions:

    1. Investors won't look at your when you haven't earned your stripes. Real estate is different from technology start ups where investors look for pedigree, energy, and pure raw talent. Stay focus on your first deal since how you overcome it will attract a lot of attention.

    2. We might see a massive default wave starting August, while the lending market is tightening up. I would continue to save and conserve capital for the next 12-18 months. Good deals will start popping left and right. You also want to wait for our lovely politicians to lift the rent/eviction/foreclosure moratorium ban. 

    3. It's relative to your capital/income. There's a fine balance between how much money you have and how much you could invest. You don't want to overstretch yourself. For entry level with limited capital, South LA still has great value to pick up as the cost to yield ratio is probably one of the highest in LA. However, the credit quality will be an issue for investors, especially in the COVID environment. 

    4. Google New Western Acquisition and speak to one of their reps. They are wholesalers.

    5. All wholesale income falls into ordinary and is subject to income tax. The only way to reduce your tax liability is through expenses. No other way out. 

    6. Your best bet is to use personal vesting since residential mortgages are more lenient and obtainable. LLC financing for 1-4 units are tough to find and expensive. However, you could transfer the title into LLC after you obtain the mortgage. The tax accounting and taxes still work the same between the two vesting, unless the property is vested for primary: taxation will be favorable for capital gain, but not for rental income.

    7. Save money now and be patient for now as a perfect storm is coming. In the meantime, arm yourself with financial modeling tools such as IRR and DCF. The tools will help you to qualify the assets and shape your strategy: income or profitability approach

    gluck

  • Accountant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2020 · 9 posts · 6 votes
    6y

    @Victor Ong Thank you so much for your insight— it was very helpful! I will focus my energy on closing my first wholesale deal and being patient in our current economy!

    Thank you again for taking the time to respond!

  • Investor · Lomita, CA · Member since 2015 · 145 posts · 71 votes
    6y

    @Caprice Claytor: Please check out the REIA I belong to -- LA South REIA based in Torrance. We have subgroups that address flipping, multifam, and notes.

    Also there is a group called FIBI. They have multiple chapters in the LA area. All of the REI groups are online now so it is easier to make meetings.

  • Accountant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2020 · 9 posts · 6 votes
    6y

    @Terrence Evans Thank you so much, I will definitely check it out!

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