Mortgage for Rental Property with No Income

Mortgage for Rental Property with No Income

Arcadia, CA · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 1 vote

Hello, I am a newbie investor with a question about rental properties and a mortgage. I have owned two properties before but never for the purpose of rentals. I recently sold my last home and am also in the process of changing my career. The nature of my path has led me to volunteering and interning for the near term.

I have some cash from my last sale and I'd like to make my first rental property investment. My ultimate goal is to have 4-5 in the next 5-7 years. It might be ambitious but I am pretty sure I can make it happen.

My biggest challenge is knowing if it is possible to get a traditional mortgage with no income. I am thinking about purchasing my first rental property in the range of $100-150k in WA, with at least 50% down. I have enough cash to purchase 2 of such properties in cash if I wanted to, so I am hoping it wouldn't be a problem to get a mortgage with no income, but I also wonder if there are any banks that would even humor that situation.

I really want to capture low interest rate that we still have. If I can't I might pursue private lending but I know nothing about that avenue and would rather keep things as simple as possible. My last resort is asking family to co-sign but would rather not go that route.

Thanks in advance for your help and advice!!

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Mike D'ArrigoPro Member
Turn key provider · San Jose, CA · Member since 2010 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
10y
Originally posted by @Deric Lamphiear:

Here is something you can consider:  Purchase a rental property, fix it, and rent it out.  After a year or so, you will have established income and can take a loan secured by your interest in the property.  Then you can use that money to finance your next property.  

You can also find properties that offer owner financing.  Feel free to contact me if you would like to go over some of the numbers.

I think this is pretty risky. Where will the income come from in a year? Even if he has some source of income in a year, a lender will require 2 years.

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  • Joe SplitrockPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
    10y

    @Account Closed I don't see you qualifying for conventional financing without a job but feel free to talk to a lender. I am not a mortgage broker.

  • Commercial Real Estate Broker · Spokane, WA · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    Here is something you can consider:  Purchase a rental property, fix it, and rent it out.  After a year or so, you will have established income and can take a loan secured by your interest in the property.  Then you can use that money to finance your next property.  

    You can also find properties that offer owner financing.  Feel free to contact me if you would like to go over some of the numbers.

  • Arcadia, CA · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    Thanks @Deric Lamphiear that's great advice. I wasn't considering that option and perhaps if I couldn't find a way to take a loan for the second property with the interest in the first property I shouldn't be taking it anyway. Do you think that fixing a rental vs buying turn key or close to it is the best way to go in this market?

  • Mike D'ArrigoPro Member
    Turn key provider · San Jose, CA · Member since 2010 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Deric Lamphiear:

    Here is something you can consider:  Purchase a rental property, fix it, and rent it out.  After a year or so, you will have established income and can take a loan secured by your interest in the property.  Then you can use that money to finance your next property.  

    You can also find properties that offer owner financing.  Feel free to contact me if you would like to go over some of the numbers.

    I think this is pretty risky. Where will the income come from in a year? Even if he has some source of income in a year, a lender will require 2 years.

  • Commercial Real Estate Broker · Spokane, WA · Member since 2016 · 10 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    I am not going to say that one or the other is better.  If you are looking for great deals in this market, you are likely going to be looking for homes that need a little TLC.  Right now in Spokane, there is about 3.5 months of supply on the market.  Good deals don't last long.  I think you are taking your time and getting different opinions - which is good.

    I think a good next step would be to sit down with several lenders to discuss options.  Think outside the box, just because you can't get approved for traditional financing right now, doesn't mean you can't invest now.

  • George DespotopoulosBusiness Member
    Lender · New York, NY · Member since 2016 · 936 posts · 287 votes
    10y

    @Account Closed are right that you are unlikely to qualify for a "traditional" mortgage without income. However, there are non-bank lenders out there who will look at your property's income, not your personal income. As long as your rental produces enough net income to cover the mortgage, you could qualify for a loan even if you don't currently have any personal income. You would still need to contribute to the down payment, but in your post you said you plan to put at least 50% down, which should be plenty. Hope this helps!

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  • Arcadia, CA · Member since 2016 · 19 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    Thanks everyone. I've talked to a lot of lenders and came to the same conclusion. I decided to buy what I can afford now in full and then refinance as soon as I have an income and rent history.

    I'll also throw this out there in case it helps anyone. I learned that one workaround to this problem is to setup a 3 year annuity that pays out regular amounts every month to prove a fixed income. However it doesn't work for me because I'm not retirement age and I would pay an early withdrawal penalty.

  • Lender · New York, NY · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    You would easily qualify for a DSCR loan. You're situation honestly perfectly describes the ideal borrower for a DSCR loan. Hoping you went that route as I see this post was made awhile ago and the account is closed!

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