Best markets to buy multifamily in 2016: A round-table discussion

Best markets to buy multifamily in 2016: A round-table discussion

Brian BurkePro Member
Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes

At the beginning of each year I take the time to research and reflect on various markets throughout the country so as to provide a road map to my acquisition search for the year.  As an active buyer of apartment complexes of 100+ units, market selection is very important to a successful outcome.

For the last seven years I’ve focused heavily on the major Texas markets, and that approach has been good to me, but 2016 is the year that I see a stronger potential to branch out to other markets as well.

To that end, I’ve researched population & job growth, wage growth, net migration, costs of doing business, median home prices, housing affordability & starts, rent/cost of ownership ratio, rent as a percentage of household income, vacancy, rent growth, and other economic and demographic indicators.  This research has led me to develop this list of MSAs that I believe may be good markets in which to invest, particularly in multifamily.  In alphabetical order:

  • Atlanta
  • Austin
  • Cape Coral / Fort Myers / Naples
  • Charlotte
  • Dallas
  • Denver
  • Nashville
  • Orlando
  • Portland
  • Raleigh
  • San Antonio
  • Seattle
  • Tacoma

There are two cities that moved up in the Milken Institute’s best performing cities index but didn’t rate all that high in ULI’s Emerging Trends in Real Estate report.  So I’m conflicted.  Not sure if I should consider them or not. Those are:

  • Boise
  • Charleston

Then, there are these three cities that seem to have strong favorable indicators but have declined in some rankings over last year.  Those are:

  • Columbus
  • Indianapolis
  • Minneapolis

And finally, there are several markets that that still don’t have the most favorable numbers, but are amongst the biggest gainers in the Milken Institute’s best performing cities index, which could spell opportunity to get in early (well, relatively speaking anyways…early was actually more like 2010).  They are:

  • Eugene
  • Fresno
  • Las Vegas
  • Modesto
  • Reno
  • Salem
  • Salinas
  • Spokane
  • Stockton

Noticeably absent are what some are calling the best markets in the country, and the data is there to support such a claim.  San Francisco, San Jose, Los Angeles.  I just see these markets as having become highly inflated and further gains are less certain in the near term.

Now for the round-table discussion.  Locals, and active investors in the named markets, what are your “boots on the ground” opinions?

And every city has a story, such as “the north side is doing great but the south side, not so much” or “XYZ is about to build a big plant on the northeast side”.  What’s the story of your market?

And for others, if I didn’t name your favorite market, what is it, and why?

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Rental Property Investor · NY · Member since 2015 · 49 posts · 20 votes
9y

Who else is ready for Brian to give us a 2017 update?

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  • Brian BurkePro Member
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    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    10y

    @Adam Phebus, I also follow news articles from GlobeSt and Multihousing News, along with feeds from various universities like Texas A&M University's Real Estate Center.  I follow research reports from various economic development agencies and brokerage houses like Marcus & Millichap, CBRE, and others along with paid subscription data from REIS and Axiometrics.

    Another great source of data for smaller-scale is the FHFA HPI (just google that and the big G will lead you right to it).  That report shows home price appreciation in hundreds of MSAs.

    I get pinged with this stuff all throughout the the day, it's great to stay informed but the bigger challenge is not letting all of the data consume you to the point that you can't focus your time on finding deals.

  • Beverly Hills, CA · Member since 2015 · 38 posts · 10 votes
    10y

    Thanks, again @Brian Burke. Wish I could give you more than 1 vote. 

  • Investor · Downers Grove, IL · Member since 2015 · 135 posts · 55 votes
    10y

    @Brian Burke thanks for sharing all the data sources you pay attention to.  Once you have identified a market as interesting, do you spend much time on the ground there getting a feel for it?

  • Brian BurkePro Member
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    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    @Account Closed, I do.  I start by talking with brokers and property managers in that market, then talk to other investors there, then take a trip out to see it for myself. But I don't stop there, ideally I'd look to partner with someone that lives there, someone who knows more about the intricacies of that market than I ever could. 

  • Pawleys Island, SC · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    10y

    What if you could build apartments without the cost of land, undergrounds, foundation, and roof.

  • Oak Lawn, IL · Member since 2016 · 53 posts · 12 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Stone Timber:

    Chicago is missing from the list.  Realtytrac had a survey recently that showed 5 Chicago zip code with the highest returns for property flips - multiunits included.  Chicago should be on this list.

     Which zips made the list?

  • Rental Property Investor · NY · Member since 2015 · 49 posts · 20 votes
    9y

    Who else is ready for Brian to give us a 2017 update?

  • Nashville, TN · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    Bump for the 2017 update! This was a fantastic read.

  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 176 posts · 48 votes
    9y

    sad to see no love for Kansas City MO :(

  • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2015 · 176 posts · 48 votes
    9y

    oops, didn't read that this was for last year . Hoping someone can provide some analysis for KCMO this year 

  • Real Estate Agent · Cave Creek, AZ · Member since 2014 · 12 posts · 5 votes
    9y

    Brain, I'm in Phoenix metro and would like to acquire a multfamily of 15+. What do you think about the market here. NAR predicted this to be the hottest market for 2017 but what I'm seeing is oversaturation of new build multifamily, low gross rental yields. Not sure if we are in a multifamily bubble. On the other hand strong influx of big corporate names, Apple, Amazon etc. so lots of jobs and people moving in. Your thoughts

  • Brian BurkePro Member
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    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    @John Bowler, the Phoenix Multifamily market is hot right now.  We've been looking at a lot of deals but get outbid all the time.  So while I believe it's a good market to be in, acquiring won't be a slam-dunk.  Fundamentals are good for B&C class.  Yes there is a lot of construction but most of it seems to be expensive luxury product, and there are a lot of people moving to the area to absorb those units. It has a bit of a bubble feel, I agree, but the bubble hasn't shown a lot of signs of stress...yet.  For now, I'm a buyer.

  • Engineer · Carlsbad/San Diego · Member since 2014 · 285 posts · 97 votes
    9y

    @Brian Burke Have you reduced your cap rate expectations compared to few years ago or even last year? I assume the main reason to get outbid is because others are ready to buy at lower cap rates. 

  • Brian BurkePro Member
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    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    9y

    @Hersh M., I have no cap rate expectations...to me it really doesn't matter what the cap rate is. I have a cap rate study that CBRE puts out twice a year that shows what cap rates properties are trading for in many of the larger urban and suburban markets.  The cape rate is the cap rate and is just a reflection of the market. I augment the cap rates in the study with the on-the-ground knowledge of the broker and what I'm seeing in the market myself on trades that I've underwritten and I do my best to keep these assumptions current. 

    To determine my strike price I underwrite to an IRR. The only thing I use the cap rate for is to determine my exit value.

    I'm getting outbid because in the space I operate in, which is the $10MM to $30MM price point, there are a lot of buyers willing to put up several hundred grand hard day one...and I'm not willing to do that. Sellers in Phoenix (and other hot markets like DFW and Atlanta, among others) are chasing the largest hard money more than they are chasing price in many cases. 

    That, plus the fact that I tend to underwrite very conservatively is to blame for my lack of "wins". I have to fully work up around a hundred properties and bid on ten to get one. In my view, however, if my "win" rate was higher I'd probably consider myself a loser because I'm probably bidding too high.

  • Rental Property Investor · Brooklyn, NY · Member since 2014 · 722 posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Brian Burke Brian, I have not done as many deals as you, but I know the feeling.  On every bid I've won, my very first thought has always been, "Uh oh.  Did I just bid too much for that property?!"

  • Real Estate Investor · Smithtown, NY · Member since 2013 · 65 posts · 26 votes
    9y

    @BrianBurke are you finding these deals with large hard money actually closing the first time or is it taking several hard money deposits before a deal trades?  Also, since you are a more experienced than most, would you be kind enough to share your thoughts on how this market cycle and period of "overpaying" plays out over the next few years?  It is interesting what some (most) deals are trading for these days.  Thanks in advance!

  • Brian BurkePro Member
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    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    @Michael Anspach, one of two things tend to happen on the deals with big hard money.  They either close, or they never even get to contract.  I'm about halfway through escrow on a property right now where we were outbid by someone else, who happened to also be putting up $100K hard.  After about three weeks the buyer and seller still had not consummated the contract.  The seller got frustrated and booted the buyer and awarded the deal to us.  

    In these types of deals, the deal is awarded with just a letter of intent and then the parties negotiate the actual purchase and sale agreement.  The "hard" deposit is never deposited nor is it ever hard until the PSA is executed.  Thus, that buyer didn't lose his deposit, because as of that time he hadn't made a deposit at all.

    As to your question on market cycle, it's anyone's guess.  While I think that there are instances where buyers are overpaying, it's not as rampant as  you'd believe by listening to other bidders.  Many people on BP rant about multifamily buyers paying crazy prices that don't make sense, but in my opinion it's just that the price doesn't make sense to THEM.  Either they had different objectives, or, more commonly, I believe, they don't know how to properly underwrite income property.  And anyone that submits any offer on any piece of real estate will say that anyone that outbid them was crazy.  I've been hearing that for decades.

    That said, the fundamentals driving multifamily are strong, especially in some markets.  Someday the music will stop and some owners will get hurt to some extent, either simply not achieving projections or catastrophic deal destruction.  But from where I sit any doomsday talk is premature.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Camarillo, CA · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Brian Burke In this market, what are you looking for in the way of value adds?  Are you looking for mainly for upgrading dated units, or are you looking for more distress?  I am also interested to hear if you are finding distressed properties in the institutional grade sandbox that you are playing in.

  • Brian BurkePro Member
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    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
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    @Jeff Greenberg, yeah, the deals are out there.  I have 606 units in escrow spread over three properties and three states right now.  One was a rebound when I was outbid and the first winner didn't get it done, one was where I just impressed the seller in the interview call (must have been an "on" day!), and the third was off-market and I was the first to hear about it (for real this time, not the usual "first to hear about it" but everyone's heard about it LOL).

    Got about a dozen more in my pipeline including some off-market and have several tours scheduled for next week after we toured 16 properties in 3 states a couple of weeks ago.  But i'm taking a short pause on writing offers (2-3 weeks) so we can digest the DD on our three escrows...

    I'm looking for deals where the numbers work.  Could be an interior-only play, or could be a total rehab of inside and outside (I prefer these, actually).  Among our three we have two interior only, and one interior/exterior.  Those are getting harder to find, however.  But I'm sure you've seen that too!

  • Real Estate Consultant · Camarillo, CA · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y

    @Brian Burke That's great Brian.  I guess that I will keep plugging away.  Someday maybe getting near your sandbox.  

  • Investor · Farmington, UT · Member since 2017 · 14 posts · 9 votes
    9y

    Any thoughts on the Salt Lake City, UT Market? I believe they are #11 on the Milken list. Net migration is solid and I believe Utah has had the best economy in the nation 3 years running.

  • Investor · Farmington, UT · Member since 2017 · 14 posts · 9 votes
    9y

    Any thoughts on the Salt Lake City, UT Market? I believe they are #11 on the Milken list. Net migration is solid and I believe Utah has had the best economy in the nation 3 years running.

  • Steve OlsonPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Pleasant Grove UT and Hurst, TX · Member since 2014 · 128 posts · 63 votes
    9y

    Hi @Brian Burke,

    Very cool thread you've opened up here!  Some awesome points and it will bring some great discussion.  I'm slammed today so if I repeat anything here sorry...but I wanted to chime in. 

    I do think that while this can be analyzed on the metro basis, there are submarkets that make sense within those metros.  I won't get into that here, but I'll share some stuff I heard on a webinar put on by CoStar last week. The title of the webinar was the future of the multi family market. 

    The bottom line was this: builders for multi fam (and single) have been focusing on the high margin luxury stuff. That gives them the best margin.  But even though the economy is recovering from an employment stand point, wage growth is largely stagnant.  So those focusing on higher end properties, regardless of market, are going to feel it in a higher vacancy rate and lower rents. 

    The opportunity is in "affordable" multi fam housing, and that was universally agreed to by the economists on the webinar.  If you're dealing in that, you're going to have a very good couple of years ahead of you because that's what people can afford and there just isn't enough of it.  I focus on new construction fourplex developments in the Salt Lake City, Houston, and Boise metros.  We also have the possibility of expanding into the Phoenix metro here in the next 12 months.  I'm sure that there are cases that could be made as to why each of these areas is great...or not so great, but the neighborhoods we've picked and the rent we target (usually between 1300-1700/mo) is in that good affordable range that we think there is demand in.  So it was good to see that CoStar agrees: if you can effectively invest in the affordable stuff from a tenant perspective, there will almost always be demand for your product.  

    Good luck in your search! 

  • Brian BurkePro Member
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    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    9y

    @Greg Schow you're right, it is #11 for the second year in a row.  Fundamentally it looks like a great market.  I don't see a lot of deal flow coming from there, however.  Perhaps it's because we haven't yet focused too hard on acquiring there so maybe it's slipping by without me noticing.  Or perhaps there just aren't a lot of trades there...I haven't figured out which yet.

  • Investor · San Mateo, CA · Member since 2016 · 27 posts · 3 votes
    5y

    What is there is Modesto,ca. Why is it such a desirable market?

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