Ashcroft capital: Additional 20% capital call

Ashcroft capital: Additional 20% capital call

Sacramento, CA · Member since 2017 · 20 posts · 28 votes

After many of the Ashcroft capital syndications paused distributions, I get this surprise email this morning saying all LP investors need to pay additional 19.7% of invested capital call  

anyone have experience with capital calls and syndications? Is there ever a position outcome to these or are we putting more money into a failing syndication?

“Thank you for your patience as we continue to navigate our way through this current economic cycle and unprecedented time in the capital markets. We recognize that this email contains a substantial amount of information, which is why a member of our Investor Relations team will be contacting you shortly to address any questions.

We need to solve for three major factors as it pertains to Elliot Roswell:

  1. Allow the multifamily market time to stabilize.
  2. Meet liquidity needs for the rate cap, capital expenditures and unexpectedly high debt payments.
  3. Resume renovations which have been temporarily paused.

How do we achieve this?

Based on feedback from our existing lender, other potential partners, and the significant capital requirements to potentially buy down the loan to refinance, we determined the best path forward is a successful LP capital call of 19.7%. This will allow us to maintain flexibility to potentially sell the property within 24 months.

This is Ashcroft’s first capital call, and while it’s regrettable to take this step, our primary focus remains safeguarding your investment. Therefore, all LPs must participate 

Elliot Roswell is a strong asset that is poised for a strong rebound in value as markets improve. This is due to the property’s institutional quality and the continued growth within the Atlanta market. Moreover, demand and absorption rates are currently at 25-year highs and are continuing to trend in that direction with a 70% reduction in new construction permits and drop off in deliveries in early 2025.

We will maintain flexibility to sell Elliot Roswell as markets improve and anticipate doing so within the next 24 months. In the meantime, we need to cover rate caps costs and resume renovations so that we are best positioned to maximize your potential return.

Why is a capital call necessary?

  • Preserving Capital: If this capital call is not successful, we will have to sell Elliot Roswell in an inopportune market. This would result in selling the asset below our basis and incurring a significant loss of LP-invested equity. Specifically, if forced to sell now it would be a total loss of capital for both Class A and Class B.
  • Replacing Rate Caps: Our rate cap is expiring this year, and the projected replacement cost is $736k.
  • Resuming Renovations: Given rising inflation and labor costs, our capital expenditure exceeded initial underwriting. This prompted a temporary pause to renovations. However, resuming renovations is essential to increasing revenue, and a capital infusion allows us to resume both interior and exterior renovations. We will consistently evaluate the cost vs. benefit, adjusting the renovation scope as necessary.
  • Maintaining Lender Requirements & Loan Covenants: We (Joe & Frank) will consistently support you and our other investors through both favorable and challenging times. We’ve already extended a $2.9M interest-free short-term loan to cover various unexpected expenses, including the replacement rate cap over the past 12 months. While this was meant as a temporary solution, it must be repaid promptly to maintain compliance with loan agreements and ens
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Brian BurkePro Member
Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
2y

@Jon Zhou I don’t know anything about this deal so my comments here are intended to be general because I have a feeling that a significant percentage of passive investors will be faced with a capital call in the near future from a large array of operators, and maybe this will be helpful to them, too. I’m not an attorney, just a syndication sponsor who has survived 34 years in the investment arena, so this is not intended to be legal advice, either.

The first question you face is whether you “have to” meet this capital call. I doubt you have to, despite the language in the letter you shared stating that “all LPs must participate.” Letters to investors are not governing documents—whether you are required to fulfill this capital call depends on the language in the operating agreement, so I’d start there. It should say whether capital calls in excess of your capital commitment are voluntary or mandatory, and if they are mandatory, it should state what the penalties are for failing to fulfill it. By that, I mean the contractual penalties, not the practical penalty such as loss of principal due to foreclosure of the property, dilution, and so on.

Then, you must decide whether you “want to” meet this capital call. There is a lot to consider here.

The letter you posted states that the sponsor has extended a $2.9 million loan to the entity to cover expenses, which “must be repaid promptly.” On one hand, it’s a good sign that the operator stood behind the deal to keep expenses funded with their own cash as long as they could. On the other hand, it could be a sign that they waited too long to issue the call, or that getting their cash back from the proceeds of the call plays a role in their decision to now issue it. Maybe it’s not a factor for this sponsor, but it could be with others…just something to consider.

To address your concern of whether you “are putting more money into a failing syndication,” your mission is to analyze whether there could potentially be a positive outcome, and if you can earn a return on the additional money.

The decision is actually a bit easier in a scenario such as this where a total loss of principal is on the table. In the case of a partial loss of principal, you also have to factor in the return you could make on the principal you got back from an immediate sale. That calculation doesn’t apply here.

If a sale today would result in a 100% loss, but a sale in the future resulted in only getting all your money back (original plus the additional call), but zero profit, you are getting a 5X return on the called capital (putting in $20K to get $120K back, for example). If it took 5 years, that’s a 20% return on the 20K (in the simplest terms). Probably a decent investment. If you got half of your original investment back plus the additional, that’s a 2.5X return on the called capital, or 10% over 5 years. Still not terrible.

But the question is, can such an outcome be achieved? Only hindsight will reveal the true answer, but I have personal experience that it is possible. I was there in the great recession of 2009 and had a deal where we were totally underwater and bleeding cash but 6 years later sold and returned all capital plus a profit.

But you have to weigh all the factors to gauge your odds. You need two things for this to work: 1. you can’t run out of time, and 2. you can’t run out of money. So is a 20% capital call going to get the job done, and provide enough money to go the distance? And if it will, is there enough term left on the loan (and if not, what’s the plan to fix that)?

Here are some things to consider in your decision (i.e. questions you might want to ask):

  1. When does the loan mature? (perhaps the most important question of all)
  2. What was the loan-to-purchase-price ratio when the property was bought?
  3. How much is the property worth today?
  4. What is the loan amount?
  5. When does the rate cap expire?
  6. What is the monthly cash burn, including reserves to purchase replacement rate caps?
  7. Is income/occupancy holding up?
  8. What are the market rent growth and occupancy forecasts for the next few years?
  9. Are renovation bumps supported by the market?
  10. What happens if some investors fulfill the call but others don’t? i.e. if the sponsor doesn’t get enough money to solve the problem, what will they do with the capital that was just contributed?
  11. What place am I in the capital stack? Is there preferred equity or Mezz Debt at a higher priority than me?
  12. What are the uses of the new funds?
  13. And a question for you: If you are invested in multiple syndications, do you have enough reserves to fulfill capital calls from all or many of them? And if not, you need to prioritize the ones that have the most likely positive outcome.

You also want to think about the market and subsequent recovery. If you zoom out, real estate goes up in value. Maybe not year to year, but certainly decade to decade. I remember people saying in 2010 that prices would never get back to the 2006 peak. But by 2014 prices had not only reached the 2006 peak but exceeded it. How long will it take for the next recovery cycle to bring you back to right-side up? I’d guess five to seven years, but I could be way off base. I’m a bit of a market pessimist lately which is why I’m not invited to a lot of parties.

BP is doing a podcast on the topic of capital calls and I’m one of the two panelists. Maybe listen to that when it comes out in a couple weeks and see if any other nuggets of info come up in the discussion.

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  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    3mo

    I think some of these type ( talking in general ) syndicators massaging debt with rosy pro-forma's have learned a hard lesson.

    Debt can be necessary and good sometimes but only when it's in your favor. Not when the heavens have to align perfectly for the returns to be there. When the market is frothy and everyone is a syndicator pumping the numbers to try and win capital from the next investor that might be when an accredited investor takes a pause or long hard look at investing.

    I pay cash for my syndications with conservative projections. Might not look as sexy as some other syndicators where accredited investor says what about this group their numbers offer more. To that I say their projections are not normal but if you want to take the risk go ahead it's not what I would do.

    Years later they come back to me talking about losses with that group they invested with. Meanwhile my deals are making money. Anyone can throw some numbers on paper but it often can be a mirage. The most gullible are often the newly accredited investor looking for max pref and outsized returns  that syndicators decades in do not produce. The accredited investor believes they have found the unicorn when nobody else could and throws money in.

    Can a syndicator get lucky every once in awhile with a property and exit timing of a cycle and produce more than 2X returns for multiples? SURE they can sometimes but it's not something consistent so it's a roll of the dice what you get.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Concord, GA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    3mo

    In my opinion there is no chance of survival for AVAF2. Putting in additional capital is supposed to increase the chances that there will be some amount of original principal returned to the investors. Based on the numbers, the economic projections and the continued failure to hit any metrics, I've already written off 100% of our investment. Anyone participating in the capital call is being very optimistic that it will result in some benefit to themselves but I just don't see any way that could happen. It's to Ashcroft's advantage to delay the demise of the fund as long as possible because until it's "dead" they haven't had a death in the family and can tout their previous successes as they continue to raise money for other projects. We will not be throwing "good money after bad" and thus will not be adding any additional capital.

  • San Diego, CA · Member since 2019 · 37 posts · 15 votes
    3mo

    https://investclearly.com/sponsors/ashcroft-capital
    pls post a review online, you tube, BBB, facebook etc etc, so we can inform other investors of our experiences! I did.

  • Rental Property Investor · Murrieta, CA · Member since 2020 · 338 posts · 343 votes
    3mo

    @Jon Zhou
    Everyone's already given their advice, but my first thought after reading the email is that they're aiming to sell the property within 24 months. Since the property isn't cash flowing, with no funds being distributed, and they've put in a personal $2.9 million loan, they now want 19.7% of invested capital, likely including the $2.9 million. I just don't see this deal turning around enough in 24 months to go from being underwater on a sale to recovering your investment, though I could be wrong. I can't speak for Atlanta, but in PHX there's been overbuilding, and more units will keep hitting the market until early '27, but new permits are also down. I think the market will rebound in late '27 or early '28, but I doubt we'll see the kind of CAP rate compression from '21-'23 at the start of the cycle.

  • Rental Property Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2020 · 11 posts · 13 votes
    3d

    Has anyone had trouble reaching Ashcroft? I'm an investor in AVAF2 and I can't get ahold of anyone at their company. I would like to talk to their Investor Relations rep. I have called and emailed every day over the last week and no one has responded. It's like a ghost company where there are no employees.

    • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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      Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
      2d

      @David Pike one thing I have seen people do is sign up on website under a new email address as IR teams always reach out to new leads 

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      Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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      Quote from @Chris Seveney:

      @David Pike one thing I have seen people do is sign up on website under a new email address as IR teams always reach out to new leads 

      That's pretty brilliant - I'm going to have to try to remember that next time I'm stuck in some auto-bot land with a company!

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    • Member since 2026 · 3 posts · 1 vote
      2d

      I do the same thing when I'm calling someone and have a million options to choose from. Just choose the new customer option

      and you immediately get to talk to a real person.

    • Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2020 · 48 posts · 25 votes
      1d

      Horrible company. Wish someone would file a class-action lawsuit against them

    • Stuart UdisPro Member
      Attorney · Philadelphia · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
      11h

      @Guy Idan What's your basis for a class action? What do you believe a class action lawsuit will accomplish? 

    • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 4 votes
      9h

      In my experience, they haven't returned a call since things haven't been going well. There used to be a "Schedule a Call" functionality either in their emails or on their website, however, the old link no longer works, and it takes you to a generic "schedule a call" page that now says "Enter your email address and we'll connect you with the right person." so I'd guess that won't get you any further. I used the old schedule a call calendar-based page as recently as July to talk to Ben their IR guy.

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 4 votes
    8h

    Just reading the tea leaves here. I have no inside information, but here's what I'm seeing and what I'm guessing:

    * Monthly update emails went from monthly to quarterly.

    * Emails that used to be very slick are now fairly short, text-based messages.

    * The “Schedule a Call” functionality has been changed to a generic intake form.

    * Asset management fees on my investment show $0 for the last four quarters; they've stopped paying themselves from the fund.

    * The GP has been contributing millions of dollars, meaning the principals have been putting their own money in on top of not getting paid.

    * The sponsor expects six of seven properties to return no equity, with at least one headed for a lender-led sale, which means the GP is getting none or almost none of that money back.

    The first three items sound like staff/overhead reductions to me. The last three just work against Ashcroft itself staying afloat.

    I'm hoping to get a final K-1 on my last investment with them to document the loss of capital, but I'm not going to count on it.

    At this point, the economic outcome for many of us is already set. I know my equity in the fund is gone whether Ashcroft survives or not. The sponsor expects six of seven properties in my fund to return no equity, and even if the last property were successfully exited, I'm too far down the capital stack for it to make a difference.

    What's still at stake is the tax value of that loss, and that depends on being able to document the disposition when it happens. If it happens with a Final K-1, I'm hoping to make lemonade out of lemons by using the massive loss to offset a Roth conversion, but we'll see if that's possible- I'm not a CPA and apparently things have to happen a certain way to turn a passive loss into a loss that can offset income.

    The risk to us at this point isn't Ashcroft folding. It's them folding messily, the investor portal going dark, and us being left without a final K-1 or the other records we may need to establish the disposition year and release suspended losses.

    So my recommendation to anyone else in similar circumstance is to CYA. While the portal is still up, download everything now. Every K-1 you've received from them, every quarterly report, every capital call notice, your subscription agreement, and the full LPA.

    Hopefully none of us ever need to rely on our own copies because the portal disappeared, but I wouldn't assume those documents will always be available when we need them.

  • Stuart UdisPro Member
    Attorney · Philadelphia · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5h

    @Daniel O'Hare Sorry to hear about the likely outcome of these investments. I would be very surprised if they failed to complete tax compliance matters as part of winding down any fund. It seems the best ever platform is doubling down at this point on education and masterminds. Specifically seeing a lot of inner circle promotions, although I admittedly do not understand exactly what that entails. Seems to be a trend these days with individuals behind struggling syndications moving over to education and community-based fee generating services.

  • San Diego, CA · Member since 2019 · 37 posts · 15 votes
    2h

    Don't forget to write your review to all online platforms including BBB, Trustpilot, Linked in, google, etc etc. That's what we did. To warn other investors. We lost a sizeable amount as well.

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