Anyone here sold a property after doing a cost seg?

Anyone here sold a property after doing a cost seg?

Jason MalabuteBusiness Member
Accountant · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 912 votes

Lots of cost seg threads this week, and nearly all of them are about the year you buy. I'm more curious about the year you sell.

Here's a conversation I end up having as a CPA more often than I'd like. Someone did a study a few years back, took a big deduction, loved it. Now they're selling and the tax bill is bigger than they figured.

Why? The stuff the study broke out, like appliances, flooring and some of the site work, and now there's something called depreciation recapture

I'm not anti cost seg. I invest too, and I like accelerated depreciation as much as anyone. I just think how long you plan to hold, and how you plan to get out, should be part of the decision before you pay for a study. A 1031 or a long hold changes the picture a lot.

So for those of you who have actually sold after a cost seg: was the tax at sale what you expected, and would you do it again?

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Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2017 · 113 posts · 31 votes
2w

One practical add from the study side: keep the study. You'll need it again at sale.

Recapture on the 5- and 7-year property is computed on Form 4797, and your CPA can't do that accurately without the component-level breakdown and placed-in-service dates from the original report. The investors who get surprised at sale are often the ones whose study is buried in an old email folder — or who replaced the water heater and flooring in year 3 without keeping track of what was in the original study versus what came later, so the sale return ends up built on estimates.

On Malabute's point about hold time: a long hold or a 1031 genuinely changes the equation versus selling in year 4. The decision isn't just "study or no study" — it's study for which exit. Worth running that plan by your CPA before paying for the report, not after the sale.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2017 · 113 posts · 31 votes
    2w

    One practical add from the study side: keep the study. You'll need it again at sale.

    Recapture on the 5- and 7-year property is computed on Form 4797, and your CPA can't do that accurately without the component-level breakdown and placed-in-service dates from the original report. The investors who get surprised at sale are often the ones whose study is buried in an old email folder — or who replaced the water heater and flooring in year 3 without keeping track of what was in the original study versus what came later, so the sale return ends up built on estimates.

    On Malabute's point about hold time: a long hold or a 1031 genuinely changes the equation versus selling in year 4. The decision isn't just "study or no study" — it's study for which exit. Worth running that plan by your CPA before paying for the report, not after the sale.

    • CPA · Miami, FL · Member since 2015 · 134 posts · 83 votes
      1w

      Wrong place haha, sorry

  • Aaron ZimmermanBusiness Member
    Accountant · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2w

    a couple of my clients are selling this year or considering selling. For one client, I modeled out and seemed to be about what he thought. For the other client, it’s early stages so may not hit this year.

  • Simon W.Business Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Lehigh Valley PA & New York City · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 683 votes
    2w

    I've seen this go sideways when the study and the books diverge after a few years.

    The study breaks the building into pieces. Your depreciation schedule has to keep those pieces. If you replace flooring or a water heater later and just expense it — or capitalize it under a new catch-all — the sale return becomes a guess. Recapture only works cleanly if you can still point to what was 5-year, 7-year, and 39-year when you bought it.

    Before I pay for a study now, I ask two things: how long am I likely to hold, and am I planning a 1031. Short hold with a taxable sale can eat a lot of the early benefit. Long hold or a clean exchange changes the math. And whatever you decide, keep the PDF with the tax file for that property, not buried in email.

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  • Investor · Member since 2023 · 133 posts · 67 votes
    1w

    More investors should have this conversation before writing the study check. Accelerated depreciation isn't free. It tends to come back as recapture when you sell, unless a 1031 or a long hold changes the path.

    What I'd model before hiring a cost-seg firm: expected hold years, the exit path (taxable sale, 1031, or hold), rough recapture on the 5/7/15-year property vs the building, and whether year-1 savings beat the study cost plus the exit tax on a present-value basis.

    Plenty of owners love year one and hate the year of sale. On a 3–5 year hold, run the exit tax with your CPA first; for a long hold or a deliberate 1031, the study often still makes sense. Not anti cost seg, just anti surprise.

  • CPA · Miami, FL · Member since 2015 · 134 posts · 83 votes
    1w

    A 1031 isn’t a guaranteed shield. Since 2018, exchanges only cover real property. Some cost seg components (carpet, appliances) may not count as real property under state law, so §1245 recapture can still be triggered in an exchange.

    Make the partial disposition election when you replace components. If you swap out a water heater or flooring the study identified, the election lets you write off the old component’s remaining basis and keeps your schedule clean for Form 4797. It has to be made on a timely filed return for that year.

    The sale price allocation matters. §1245 recapture is limited to the gain on those assets, and used carpet and appliances aren’t worth much at sale. A supportable allocation can keep more gain at the 25% unrecaptured §1250 rate instead of ordinary rates.

    Suspended passive losses get released on a taxable sale. If you couldn’t use the cost seg losses up front, they can offset a good part of the recapture when you sell.

    Not anti cost seg, just worth planning the exit before closing.

  • Accountant · IL · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 9 votes
    20h

    Also don't forget that even the ability to execute a 1031 is not guaranteed either, nor guaranteed to be economically optimal. You have to identify one or more replacement properties no later than 45 days after the sale date of your previous property. The identified property/properties also needs to close within 180 days of the sale of your prior property (this time frame may require extending your tax return if the replacement period extends beyond April 15th of the following year). Both of these requirements create the possibility for an intended 1031 exchange to fail. These requirements also give you less negotiation leverage - which is an important part of many real estate deals. There are also fees for the qualified intermediary needed to execute the exchange.

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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    20h

    I'll tell you next year. I sold my STR which I did a cost segregation study for bonus depreciation 5 years ago. I have run some preliminary numbers and I expect somewhere around 20-25k taxes owed on it total, but I'm also a REP which always helps at least reduce the tax blows at eoy. I still expect to have saved some tax dollars from the year I ran it so still worthwhile.

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