Out-of-state rehab in Florida: how do you know the work is really done?

Out-of-state rehab in Florida: how do you know the work is really done?

Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes

Hi everyone, and happy Tuesday!

Last week the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office announced "Operation Bad Builder": 50 people arrested between June and early October, mostly for contracting without a license or leaving homes worse than before. Their advice: check the license with DBPR, ask for proof of insurance, get the scope in writing, and don't pay the full amount up front.

That covers who you hire. But what about after the job starts, when you're in another state and can't walk the site?

  1. What does your contractor send you that actually helps you trust the progress: photos, video calls, a local inspector?

  2. Where did you get burned when you weren't there?

  3. What do you require now before releasing a payment?

From 15 years in construction, my rule is simple: money follows a finished stage, not the calendar. Curious how you do it from a distance.

Have a great day!

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Realtor · Memphis, Shelby County · Member since 2026 · 165 posts · 55 votes
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I would not pick a fixed percentage first, because the holdback should match the value of the unfinished and punch-list work, not just a round number. The choice between a smaller and a larger holdback matters less than having it agreed in writing before work starts, with a clear final walkthrough step before the last payment is released. For larger draws, I would prefer verification from someone without a financial interest in that draw, such as a licensed inspector or another trusted local person, rather than relying only on the contractor's own report. That separation keeps the draw tied to finished work, and it gives both sides a clear record if anything still needs correcting.

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  • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
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    A quick follow-up, because I keep thinking about this one. On our Swiss jobs the client often wasn't on site. What worked for us was simple: every stage was closed with photos taken from the same angles as the "before" photos, and nobody got paid for a stage until the client had seen them. It ended most arguments before they started.

    So here's my question for everyone investing out of state: if your contractor could send you only ONE thing at the end of each week, what would you want it to be? Photos, a video walkthrough, a call, or an inspector's report?

    Have a great day!

  • Realtor · Memphis, Shelby County · Member since 2026 · 165 posts · 55 votes
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    If I could only get one thing each week, it would be a live video walkthrough, not just photos. Photos help, but a walkthrough lets you ask questions in real time and see the corners, the finishes, and the work that is still open. I would pair that with a written scope for each stage before work starts, so everyone agrees on what 'done' means. Then I would tie payments to completed stages, not to dates, and keep a small holdback until a final walkthrough is done. For a larger job, I would also have a trusted local person or inspector check the work before a big draw. That combination keeps surprises smaller, and it gives you a clear record if you ever need to sort out a disagreement.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
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      @Ametria Chaney Wow, Ametria, thank you, this is some of the best feedback I've had here! It's almost exactly how we work: a written scope for every stage before anything starts, and every stage, every block, is confirmed and quality-checked by our specialists before any money moves. So the owner gets more than a finished job, they get a proven process. It feels a bit like your own reality show: you watch every step and simply confirm when you agree it's done.

      One thing I'm curious about: how big a holdback do you keep until the final walkthrough, 5% or closer to 10%? And for the bigger draws, who is your trusted local person, a licensed inspector or someone from your own team?

      Have a great day!

    • Realtor · Memphis, Shelby County · Member since 2026 · 165 posts · 55 votes
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      I would not pick a fixed percentage first, because the holdback should match the value of the unfinished and punch-list work, not just a round number. The choice between a smaller and a larger holdback matters less than having it agreed in writing before work starts, with a clear final walkthrough step before the last payment is released. For larger draws, I would prefer verification from someone without a financial interest in that draw, such as a licensed inspector or another trusted local person, rather than relying only on the contractor's own report. That separation keeps the draw tied to finished work, and it gives both sides a clear record if anything still needs correcting.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
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      @Ametria Chaney Thank you, Ametria, I fully agree: the holdback should match the open punch-list work, not a round number.

      And on independence, that's exactly how we built it. We never rely on the contractor's own report. Next to the crew there is an independent expert and a team that follows every process on site, step by step. The job is split into technological stages: demolition, rough plumbing, waterproofing, tiling and so on. Each stage has its own checks, and the next one doesn't start until the previous one is accepted. Waterproofing is the best example: once the tiles are on, nobody can see it anymore, so it has to be checked and documented at that moment, not at the end.

      The contractor is paid only for work that is actually done and accepted, stage by stage. Not for time and not for promises. That keeps everyone honest, and good contractors like it too: once a stage is accepted, the payment follows, with nothing to argue about.

      One more question, since you work with buyers in Memphis: how often do you see the final payment released before the punch list is really finished?

      Have a great day!

  • Austin McClainBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · OH · Member since 2021 · 350 posts · 602 votes
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    Paying an independent third party (contractor, inspector, etc) to do bi-weekly checks can help as well.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
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      @Austin McClain thank you! Agreed, an independent eye is the key, as I shared above. In the US, do those checks usually go by the calendar or by stages, like rough-in before the walls close? Have a great evening!

    • Austin McClainBusiness Member
      Real Estate Agent · OH · Member since 2021 · 350 posts · 602 votes
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      No problem! Going by stages is best.

  • Financial Advisor · FL · Member since 2024 · 472 posts · 116 votes
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    Hi Vladimirs, happy Tuesday! Out-of-state rehabs can definitely be nerve-wracking, especially with headlines like the recent sting in Florida. As a private lender, we see the good, the bad, and the ugly of long-distance flips.

    To protect both the investor and our capital, we never release funds based on a calendar. We require third-party draw inspections. Instead of relying on the contractor's photos, an independent local inspector walks the site, takes date-stamped photos, and verifies the exact percentage of completion for each line item. Only then does the money move.

    Video calls are great for a quick pulse check, but nothing beats an unbiased set of eyes on the ground before a wire goes out. Stay safe out there, and feel free to reach out if you need any help!

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
      10h

      @Stevan Stojakovic thank you, Stevan, and happy Wednesday! Draw inspections by line item are the whole idea behind our stage control, so it's good to see a Florida lender actually doing it. One thing we added on our Swiss projects, because an inspector sees the site only on draw day: the completed percentage is checked against the agreed scope and price for that line, so done means done as quoted. My family is relocating to Florida, so I'd be glad to stay in touch. A practical question: what do you usually do when the inspector finds a line item at 60% instead of 100%? Have a great evening!

  • Richard NeesePro Member
    Rental Property Investor · South Vinemont, AL · Member since 2026 · 35 posts · 8 votes
    13h

    Great post . We've been burned before on a Commercial roof and it took months to track the guy down. I think his mom died 3 times in the process or atleast that was the story. We pay for materials and have them delivered to the job. we contract labor with a scope to be paid out with pictures, videos and or a walk if we are local. This applies for subs and for our own guys with daily progress pics to be put into a tracker. I haven't been a state away yet, but looking forward to learning more from this group!

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
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      @Richard Neese thank you, Richard, and the roofer whose mom died three times made me laugh, I think we've all met him! Paying for materials yourself and having them delivered to the job is smart; it takes the biggest cash risk off the table. Daily progress pics into a tracker is the part most people skip. On our Swiss projects every photo is tied to a scope line with its price, so the tracker also shows what that picture is worth in money. When a sub sends the photos, who checks that the work in them actually matches the scope, you or someone on site? Have a great evening!

  • Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13h

    I always recommend having someone be there for you if you aren't local. They can swing by and see progress. You can pay them per visit.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
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      @Caleb Brown thank you, Caleb! Paying someone per visit is the simplest fix, and I'd add one thing from our projects: the visit should land at the moment a stage closes, not on a fixed weekday, because the day after the drywall goes up, there's nothing left to see. Who do your out-of-state clients usually send for that: a home inspector, a handyman, or you? Have a great evening!

  • Realtor · Memphis, Shelby County · Member since 2026 · 165 posts · 55 votes
    12h

    That is a fair question, and I see it happen often enough that I always warn buyers about it: final payment is leverage, so it should not go out until the punch list is actually verified, not just promised. In practice, I recommend holding back the final payment until someone you trust has walked the property and confirmed each item with photos, and until any remaining items are put in writing with a completion date. If a contractor pushes for payment first, that is a sign to slow down, not speed up. A clear written scope and a payment schedule tied to verified milestones will protect you far better than any verbal assurance.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
      10h

      @Ametria Chaney thank you, Ametria, that's a clear rule: final payment is leverage. We go one step further: every remaining item on that list gets its own price, not just a completion date, so the final payment shrinks by exactly what is not done, and both sides sign the list during the walk. Do Memphis contractors sign such a list on the spot, or does it turn into an email chain? Have a great evening!

  • Real Estate Agent · Boston, MA · Member since 2025 · 48 posts · 17 votes
    12h

    Your rule is the right starting point, Vladimirs — money follows a finished stage, not the calendar. I operate 17+ units across Worcester, Warren, and Revere, MA, and even as a “local” owner I'm not on site daily, so we verify the way an out-of-state owner has to.

    What works for us:

    • Scope broken into defined stages before work starts. No draw releases until that stage is documented with dated photos and a short live video walkthrough — not stills the contractor chose.

    • Each draw matched to invoices and receipts for materials actually on site.

    • Big stages confirmed by a separate set of eyes — our own management team (I co-founded TWM Residential), never the contractor's word alone.

    • Final payment held until the punch list is closed and the work passes our walkthrough.

    The burn comes from paying ahead of verified work — once you're behind the money, the leverage is gone.

    Happy to connect — DMs are open.

    • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
      10h

      @Inder Singh thank you, Inder, this is a real system! Matching each draw to invoices and receipts for materials on site is the piece I rarely see people mention, and it closes the gap that photos can't. We do the same on our Swiss projects, plus one thing: the next stage doesn't start until the previous one is accepted, so a problem never gets buried under new work. Happy to connect, I'll send you a request. With 17+ units, do you still walk the big stages yourself, or has your team taken that over? Have a great evening!

  • Mark UpdegraffBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Rochester, NY · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 711 votes
    11h

    @Vladimirs Veiss, I’d decide what proof closes each stage before the work starts. A photo can show that drywall is up; it may not show what happened behind it or whether the work matches the scope. For an out-of-state job I’d want the original scope broken into measurable checkpoints, same-angle photos or video, and an independent local walkthrough at the milestones where later corrections would be expensive. Then the payment decision is tied to an agreed deliverable instead of a reassuring update.

  • Real Estate Consultant · Riga, Latvia · Member since 2026 · 59 posts · 12 votes
    10h

    @Mark Updegraff thank you, Mark, same here! Behind-the-wall work is something we never accept from a photo of the finished wall: on our Swiss projects the stage closes before the drywall goes up, while pipes and wiring are still visible, and a technical supervisor checks it against the agreed scope, with photos and video taken at that checkpoint from the same angles. We pay on sign-off, not on an update. And the milestone you mention, where later corrections get expensive, is our strictest checkpoint. One practical question: when the owner can't be there in person, who usually does that independent walkthrough in your projects, and who pays for it, the owner or the lender? Have a great week!

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