You end up with multiple, un-synchronized lists that are difficult to extract individual cells of info from.

Now I fear the extract via refi will be cash negative and have the costs associated with the refi.

You can create tremendous upside because you understand where the bodies are buried and how to extract value others miss.If, on the other hand, you have to Google what an allonge is, or you’ve never enforced a note through litigation, or you’ve never stared down a borrower who knows exactly how to game the system, then DIY note investing is not safer just because the coupon is higher.

It does not take much math skills to realize that without an extraction of value that the cash flow would be outstanding.  

You own this high value property having not only extracted al, your investment, but in addition you pocketed $90k from the value add shortly after acquisition.How long would it take to make $90k in the cheap market that many of these post advocate?  

SEO takes several months to produce results, and the process can be slow and costly.Google Ads, on the other hand, doesn’t require data extraction like calls, direct mail, or texting.

It is sometimes hard to compete.I also bought some great cashflowing deals (PTIA over 2.3) that have a low appraised value, making it harder to extract my initial capital contribution (so the money is parked, making it harder to scale than I anticipated)My goal remains to scale:I still seek mentorship, better systems, new ways to source deals, more connections, and better contractors.I hope Bigger Pockets continues to be the place to help fill these gaps. \8999999999 

Once a system controls the payment flow, it doesn’t have to rethink its data model, workflows, or assumptions.At roughly $40,000 per year for every 1,000 properties, payment handling isn’t nickel-and-diming — it’s extraction.

The PA Department of Revenue gets a copy, and they can review the information on that form to see if there are other ways to extract revenue from any of the parties in the transaction.

Also to focus on actual B-class pockets, I would also suggest extracting data by crime statistics, median household income and school ratings.