question about dealing with a potential 1031 involving LLC vs. personal...

question about dealing with a potential 1031 involving LLC vs. personal...

Akron, OH · Member since 2012 · 77 posts · 2 votes

OK - I have 2 duplexes I plan to sell, and do a 1031 exchange to buy a larger multifamily, something in the 6 - 20 unit range, depending what i can find in a price I can afford.

My wife and I want to form an LLC as equal partners, but the duplexes I am selling are titled only to me (not my wife), which makes the 1031 problematic, since the new property won't be in the same entity. A single member LLC, from what i understand, would work, since it would fall as a "disregarded entity" but not a two member.

So what are my options?

My thoughts:

1. Move the duplexes to the new LLC before selling them, that way the 1031 involves the same entity. However, if I do this, would the IRS see that the duplexes went into the LLC only a few months earlier and consider this a problem, or, too "short term" of a sale and therefore call it an inventory sale instead of sale of a rental?

2. Create the LLC as a single member LLC, then, sometime down the road, add my wife as a new second member of the LLC. Would this work? If I did that, would that mess up my taxes for that year?

3. Buy the apartment individually, then move to LLC. Not sure the commercial lender I have in mind would like this, plus, the IRS can catch on here too, I've read about it.

We're in Ohio as are all properties in question, so its not a community property state.

Hopefully someone who has dealt with this can chime in.

Thanks!!

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  • Accountant, Enrolled Agent · Grayslake, IL · Member since 2011 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    14y

    Joe Smith,

    I have a very simple answer to this. Open the LLC now contribute the properties and add your wife as of whenever you care to.

    So to sum it up:

    Option 1 or 2 would be satisfactory, as your holding period of over 12 months is passed through to the LLC. If you chose option 2 make it it effect January 1st of a certain year.

    -Steven the Tax Guy
    Your guide to IRS laws, rules and regulations.

  • Akron, OH · Member since 2012 · 77 posts · 2 votes
    14y

    Thanks, Steven.

    I'm thinking this then, based on your comments:

    1. Create a single member LLC.

    2. Deed the 2 duplexes over to the LLC, using a warranty deed, not a quit-claim, as I've heard recommended here and elsewhere.

    3. Complete the 1031 and buy the new building.

    4. Effective 1/1/2013, add my wife and make the LLC a 2-member LLC, with my wife and I as 50/50 owners (how difficult is this to do?)

    The question then becomes, if the IRS sees my wife and me file MFJ (we we always have) a Schedule E (as a sole individual titleholder) for 2011, a Schedule E (under single member LLC) for 2012 with a 1031 exchange thrown in there, then, suddenly in 2013, my wife and I are both filing K-1's with a Form 8825 and 1065 (we'd file as a Partnership for a 2 member LLC) with no schedule E...will the IRS blink at that?

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