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Recently purchased Reo Rockstar and they suggest providing a PoF from hard money lenders etc. Most of the REO's on our MLS says CASH ONLY. Does that mean that if I make a offer with a POF from a Hard Money lender that they won't look at it? Or, does this mean the same thing as Cash Only? Thanks


Real Estate Investor · Santa Fe Springs, California


It has been my experience when they say CASH ONLY, basically they don't care how you pay, but they will not allow for a loan contingency, meaning you better be prepared to close else lose your deposit.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


And some banks will want to see real POF's meaning a bank statement with CASH in the bank.
Approval letters do not always work, but often do. As Brian stated, a large part of the key is no financing contigency and thus, if your HM lender does not approve your loan, you lose yoru EMD!

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor · Audubon, Pennsylvania


There is one point to keep in mind. Some REO properties have been so trashed by former occupants (or vandals while it was vacant) that the normal banking lenders will not lend on them. This can be one of the reasons for cash only, as they know that financing that REO is a pipe dream.


Title Representative · Fort Lauderdale, Florida


I agree with all of the responses... Basically the banks are req. cash only because they want the property sell quickly without all of the lender delays and then to have the sale fall thru due to financing issues on the buyer's end. And yes, many are now requiring a bank statement that shows funds are in hand...


SFR Investor · Rancho Cucamonga, California


I used to use my HML letter on my cash offers. Typically didn't have any problems.

As the market has got more competitive I use just a bank statement as people would always ask about hard money letter. I completely removed it from the approval package (even though I only use cash on 50/50 right now).


Real Estate Investor


If they are that strict about the offers being all cash with no contingencies whatsoever, are you still allowed to ask for a 30 day (or so) inspection period? Or is it up to you to get your contractor in there to estimate repairs, and get a CMA/find-comps BEFORE you make any offer?


Real Estate Investor · Tampa, Florida


You can ask for a 30 day inspection period, but it will weaken your offer quite a bit.

There is a lot of competition right now for REOs, so you want to make your offer as clean as possible. If you must use an inspection period, try to keep it short and sweet.

Steph


Title Representative · Fort Lauderdale, Florida


Originally posted by Stephani
You can ask for a 30 day inspection period, but it will weaken your offer quite a bit.

There is a lot of competition right now for REOs, so you want to make your offer as clean as possible. If you must use an inspection period, try to keep it short and sweet.

Steph


Isnt that the truth! The more stips and contingencies you request, the further to the bottom of the list your offer goes.

Real Estate Investor


So the bank generally allows you to view the property and bring a contractor along if you wanted to before hand? I guess you might have time to mess around with things like that if you got access to the deal before it hit MLS, but once it did, would there be time to walk through the place or is it just BOOM BOOM BOOM offer offer offer, SOLD?

Do you guys even care frankly what the property is like or what the repairs cost, or are you just tickled that you can get any property at 50 cents on the dollar so you don't really care?


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


Carson,
50% of teh dollar does not happen to often here in CA, however, to answer your question, if you do it right, then you get in BEFORE it hits the MLS and know your repair budget going in.
You are correct that once it hits MLS, it is offer, offer, offer, accept, sold!.

I don't bring a contractor with me to every deal I look at. You think my contarctor wnats to waste time doing a ton of quotes on properties I don't even have under contract? No way! I estimate the repairs (experience has taught me how) and once I have it under contract, I use my very short inspection period to bring in my contractor to verify the repair estimates and give me a hard bid in writing.

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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Real Estate Investor


Thanks for the help, Will, Steph, and Jamie!


Real Estate Investor · Bayou Vista, Texas


Here in Houston all the deals I see as CASH ONLY are trashed. When you put a offer in here you automatically without putting any stipulations on the contract get 4 days to back out for any reason. You should be able to guess what the repairs should be..................then add 20%

Chris


Real Estate Coach · St. Louis, Missouri


Same thing as cash.

Brian Haskins


Real Estate Investor · Canyon Lake, California


I take about 5 minutes to walk a house before putting an offer in. With a little practice you find yourself simply adding as you walk. It sounds something like this:
"5k for kitchen upgrade, 2,500 for bathrooms, 1,500 for missing condenser, needs flooring that's 2,500 and 2,500 for paint in the entire house, so around 15k rehab." Lock up and then on to the next house. A friend of mine does reverse math. He assumes the house needs to be gutted to the studs and starts at 40k. He then subtracts from there for anything that is salvageable until he arrives at a fix-it budget.
After you get an acceptance on your offer I go back with a check list and spend around an hour making sure I can really do it within my allotted budget based on my ARV. Because of the type of crap houses I buy, that same day or the next day I have my septic guy and termite guy come to give me the good or bad news. Then I head to building and safety to talk to code enforcement about the code violations they have and what they want me to do. When I am satisfied there are no major surprises I wire the entire purchase price to escrow as my earnest money. Like Chris said, you can write an offer saying you have NO contingencies or inspections, but you always get 3 or 4 days which is plenty to see if you need to back out based on surprises you might not have noticed. It would be during this time you have your contractor come take a look with you, not before acceptance of the offer.


Real Estate Investor · Studio City, California


I'm with Summerhomes on this one. However, couple of notes. First, there is a big difference between buying house for rent or to flip. To me, flipping require more attention since the work must be up to a certain standard. Same applies to a higher-end neighbourhood if rental is on your mind, However, if this is a low income neighbourhood, the standard is different. Yes, you have to make sure that it is up to code, free of hazard and all the mechanics work. Beyond that, it is all cosmetics.
Second, when you enter the house you have to be able to determine whether the damage is new due to a frustrated home owner who just lost his /her (Mostly "his" in this case) house. Some, may strip the house, make holes in the wall, remove door jambs, etc. Or, there is a fundamental neglect, that can point out deeper problems. rotten wood, roof that is falling apart, rusted pipes, etc. These may point out condition that would require much more extensive work and may put the worthiness of the deal in question


Real Estate Investor · Miami, Florida


cash means cash. use a bank statement, IRA or brokerage statement if you can, you are not showing where the $$ is coming from, just showing you can close. it would suck to miss a good deal on a technicality like if they don't like your POf letter for whatever reason...

as for competition, the ones that are priced right are gone in under a week here, I had several I missed before I could even get in to look. when I was fast enough, ONCE, I put in no contingincies, all cash, 10% earnest, offered substantially over list and still got beat out. The guy that got it paid 7k more than my offer and probably still made 40. That makes him smart and me cheap I guess, lol.

you need speed, money, and know what your doing for those. it probably doesn't hurt to have an inside track or to be lucky either.

the ones that are priced wrong at 2x their trashed current value will sit there for months, you have to watch for the price drops and be ready to move when the market reality and the list price get relatively close. for some reason I've been able to make those work pretty well but it's a waiting game.


Rehabber · Santa Clarita, California


I can also relate to summerhomes post. I walk through a home and can just instantly add up in my head a repair estimate and I am usually right there with teh hard bid from my contractor (if we get that far).

As far as POF's, I use bank statements, stock and trust account statements, etc. showing true liquid funds. This makes MY all cash offer more appealing than the other guys who use POF's from hard money lenders which are really not all cash they are financing offers without financing contingencies. (not really the same)

Small_barnardenterprisesWill Barnard, Barnard Enterprises, Inc.
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