Unlisted REO opportunity - advice/strategy?

Unlisted REO opportunity - advice/strategy?

Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 292 posts · 81 votes

In the process of making a spreadsheet of the properties in close proximity (2 blocks) of my rental, I discovered that one of the properties is a REO that's been transferred from bank to investor to bank since 2007, finally landing last year in the lap of a bank who purchased it as part of a wholesale package. It hasn't been on the MLS or otherwise marketed, to the best of my knowledge.

Initially they stated it was for sale and were going to give me the lockbox code. Then, they realized that the property was still occupied, albeit in the process of eviction. They stated that they'd call me back in two weeks, post eviction, and let me do the walk-through then.

The exterior looks decent. The current occupants give me a little hope that the interior isn't horrible - a little landscaping, hanging plants on the porch, etc. The bank is asking $15K for it, the ARV is only in the neighborhood of $35K, but rent would be $750 - $800.

Obviously, a lot will depend on the interior rehab costs. Assuming that it's a go, what's the best way to approach this? The market here has definitely picked up and I'd like to slip into this deal without dealing with yet another multiple bid situation. I'm just not sure what the bank's strategy is.

My first thought is just to have everything lined up and ready to go so that I can pull the trigger immediately after the interior inspection.

My second thought is to try to make an offer in the next few days (contingent on the eviction) and inspect the interior after the occupants are out but during the contingency period.

Thoughts?

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  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 292 posts · 81 votes
    13y

    The plot thickens. They current investment group owner is in the process of buying a bulk number of properties from the lender. Most have been transferred, but this one has not because there are squatters in the house and they have to be legally evicted which could take the Court system 30-120 days (his estimate).

    They will take $9600 cash. However, there are 3 current issues with the house that will NOT allow them to accept any contract: 1) The bank is only willing to take cash at this point (which isn't a problem), 2) They do not have legal access to the house yet, so it can’t be secured which does not allow them to sell it and 3) There are squatters on site and they have to be evicted which means they can’t access to it. They will NOT accept any contract with contingencies about access and with squatters at this point, no exceptions.

    They want me to call every 2 weeks to see where things stand. What I see is that over the last couple of days the squatters look like they're moving out. I really want to make any vacancy as short as possible because of the theft/vandalism issues around here. I have the feeling that the investors will evict by the book, rather than claiming abandonment. Honestly, I'd almost rather the squatters stuck around until set-out!

    Has anyone dealt with squatters PRIOR to taking ownership? I have a feeling I'll just have to suck it up and wait, but it chafes. Oh how it chafes! :)

  • Ned CareyPro Member
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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    13y

    Ben Skove Squatters can be dealt with by cash for keys. Or just cash to let me in to see the house.

    Of course they can sell it they just choose not to. Make them an offer that you accept the house with squatters and accept responsibility of removing them. Possession is the legal term. The bank does not have "possession" the squatters do. Just make sure you offer addresses that.

  • Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2013 · 292 posts · 81 votes
    13y

    You're right, Ned, I'm sure they could...sadly, they're not willing to budge on this, even though it seems to be to their advantage.

    Cash for keys is my next step. I know people in the neighborhood, so I'm trying to bring someone along today who knows the squatters and can mediate in a neighborly way. We'll see how it goes.

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