Purchasing a 4 unit property that needs tons of work - Financing Options??

Purchasing a 4 unit property that needs tons of work - Financing Options??

Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 101 posts · 11 votes

Hello,
I am purchasing a 4 unit Investment property in NJ that needs tons of work, new floors, appliances, fixtures, ROOF, tiles etc. It is a short sale and I'm getting it for $70k. I can either pay cash for the property but then it would leave me very little for repairs.

I was hoping to find some options either to finance the property or get a rennovation loan. Anyone has any ideas.

The property once fixed up will bring in $1,200 rent from each apt. PLEASE HELPPPP!!!

Thank you

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Real Estate Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2012 · 44 posts · 13 votes
14y

4 unit property is considered the same as single family. Just use fanniemae's 203k if you are considering living in one of the units. If not get a hard money and then refi to SFH conventional once repairs are completed. Also, make sure you have your out before you enter into hard money loans

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  • Real Estate Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2012 · 44 posts · 13 votes
    14y

    4 unit property is considered the same as single family. Just use fanniemae's 203k if you are considering living in one of the units. If not get a hard money and then refi to SFH conventional once repairs are completed. Also, make sure you have your out before you enter into hard money loans

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 101 posts · 11 votes
    14y

    Thanks Ali - I won't be living in the property. I guess another option is to borrow from my 401K (rather than get hard money) and then refinance the place once the rennovations are complete. What is the SFH loan? I'm not familiar with it.

  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    14y

    SFH = single family. You may be able to just get conventional financing on this. You would need about 25% down, so you would still be over the magic $50K minimum where you'll get someone interested in making the loan. But the house will need to be "livable", and that might be a stretch with the work you're describing.

    Another option is a construction loan. Like hard money, but from a bank and at a more reasonable rate.

    Hard money may be an option. You may still need a down payment but you might be able to borrow part of the rehab money.

    Yet another option is to pay cash and use credit cards or your 401k for the rehab. Then refi out of all this into a conventional loan. If you just use the price plus your documented expenses, you may be able to do the refi relatively quick. If you can hang on for a year, you might be able to use a new appraisal.

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 101 posts · 11 votes
    14y

    Thank you John - lots to think about.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2011 · 114 posts · 38 votes
    14y

    If you have excellent credit, you should have cheaper options than a hard money loan.

    If you have equity in your house or a paid-off car, you can get a HELOC or a bank loan secured by the car. In Oklahoma we have lenders that will do HELOC's up to 100% of the appraisal value of your residence. The rates on those are around 8% with no closing costs - much cheaper than a hard money loan. You can also get an unsecured loan from lendingclub.com for up to $30k or so.

    These are all short-term options that you can use for rehab expenses, then pay off with a conventional loan after six months.

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 101 posts · 11 votes
    14y

    Thanks a lot Jon - really good options.

  • West, MI · Member since 2012 · 674 posts · 182 votes
    14y

    How much rehab money did you budget to get it rentable?

  • Investor · Mission Viejo, CA · Member since 2012 · 627 posts · 204 votes
    14y

    When was it built? Does the Rehab. estimate include dealing with lead and asbestos? If not, watch out for big change orders, or problems with regulatory and tenant lawsuit liability. You may be able to get a lower price by having agood local consultant perform an asbestos & lead survey, then use the findings in your negotiations.

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 101 posts · 11 votes
    14y

    John,
    My contractor quoted another 70K for rehab so that's what I'm factoring in. Similar properties in the area are around $230K but obviously in livable conditions.

    Stephen,
    It was built in 1912 - it has been checked for lead and its negative. I will add asbestos to my list of items to test. The short sale is approved so I don't have room for negotiations. Either i proceed with the property or walk away from it.

    BTW this forum rocks....

  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    14y

    I'll bet lunch that there is asbestos, that's a sure thing unless it has been removed in the past.

    Financing, check with your local (city) economic development office as HUD has had funds for rehabs in targeted zones, with the age of that property sounds like it might be an option. Good luck...

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 101 posts · 11 votes
    14y

    Is asbestos really expensive to remove?

  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator · Springfield, MO · Member since 2009 · 21k+ posts · 12k+ votes
    14y

    Depends on requirements, you may need a license to remove it and if there aren't many contractors around you could be gigged. They will sell all the issues and talk about approved containers for disposal too. Turned out here, an approved container was a 15 mil plastic bag inside a cardboard box with all sides and top taled off with duct tape!

    You might consider doing a good clean up before testing too. Asbestors can be found in old boilers, duct work, attic and insullation, floor tiles and rolled flooring, old carpet pads and in plaster and lath. There were some creative uses for the stuff as it was an insulator and a fire retardant.

    Expensive is a subject term, but yes, it could be expensive to clean up. There is no issue having it in a building if it is fully contained and won't be disturbed through normal use, that's the view here. I suggest you call your local building regs folks and inquire about this issue and how they want to deal with it.

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