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Originally posted by MikeOH

My runner-up vote goes to President Obama, who immediately assumed that this police officer was a racist, even when he admittedly didn't know the facts!

Mike

But he gets my vote for biggest hypocrite. Leading the American people to believe that he is without prejudice. As time goes on we see more and more what a charlatan he is.

Originally posted by Mr_Investor

And Obama that doesn't surprise me that ignorant idiot is racist. The fact he denounces his white heritage shows you what type of person he is.

Yeah, why is it we never hear anything about the white side of his family? Is he ashamed of it?

The affirmative action BS hasn't made anything equal in this country. It has only served to discriminate against others was proven by Sotomayor; my 3rd runner up for biggest racist in this country.

Originally posted by Eddie Ziv

I would suggest that since none of us know exactly what happened there and that would include you guys and the president of the United States as well, let reserve judgment on this one until all the facts are known.

I know exactly what President Obama said. The indictment of him I agree with. We know the facts there.

Originally posted by Tim Wieneke

Originally posted by Eddie Ziv

I would suggest that since none of us know exactly what happened there and that would include you guys and the president of the United States as well, let reserve judgment on this one until all the facts are known.

I know exactly what President Obama said. The indictment is of him. We know the facts there.

I have no argument about that with you Tim . As I mentioned. The judgment should be and have been reserved. The president started by saying that he is a close friend of Mr. Gates, that he doesn't know all the details and that he is biased because of his friendship with Mr. Gates and then he continue saying that the police acted stupidly, which is a judgment that contradict what he said seconds earlier.

Eddie,

The facts ARE known, except for the release of the 911 tapes and radio calls. The news is reporting that the officer keyed his mic and this entire racist rant was captured on tape.

Furthermore, if you read the Professor's rant on www.theroot.com - you can see what a racist he is IN HIS OWN WORDS!

Mike

I am so tired of the race card and the profiling card being played.

It happens to me once in a while at my low-income minority rentals. There I'll be, Mr. White Bread sitting in his beater waiting to show a rental and the cops will roll up and want to know WHO I am and WHY i'm here. You know what I say?

THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU FOR DOING YOUR JOB!!!

What's interesting to me here is that all the respondents in this thread are White. I wonder why I don't see a reaction from any Black folks here? I guess they don't want to touch that issue with the 10' pole. "Survivor of the fetus" if you will. Not so good for business I presume...

Well being a White man myself, all I can say is that until you have the experience of a Black man in America, you have a limited power of judgment.
That said, I do agree with you regarding the Jesse Jacksons and the Al sharptons of this country. They made a career out of it.

Small disclaimer: I am married to a Black woman.

I'm tired of any group claiming racism. GET OVER IT!!! I've seen prejudice in my life and in my history, but MOST don't keep bringing it up like Gates did.

1. First- Obama is approx 25% African-American-(oops, we're not sure about the American part since there are questions about his actual birth certificate. double oops-he is only 25% African or black and 75% UNBLACK!!

2. Second- Obama is 75% Muslim heritage(check out relatives). Should we start calling him the first Muslim pres since he has a higher % of that?

3. I attended a forecclosure sale in So. Texas where Acorn showed up to demonstrate against the sale. They claimed it was prejudice toward Hispanics. BS- it was only prejudice against those that DIDN't make their payments. I was even filmed on TV arguing with the Acorn a-_____!

4. I weighed 362 pounds 15 years ago. I was treated prejudicially because of my weight. It never stopped me from being successful in business, and life. I heard the comments, accusations and derision about it, but didn't use it as a crutch.

5. The Japanese were rounded up during WW2 and put in detention camps. They hadn't yelled at the police, performed thefts, etc. Just the color of their skin and slant of their eyes. They seemed to come back from that pretty well. Unlike the Blacks, who as a whole, have not overcome their "injustices". They want someone else to do it for them, imo.

6.I'm a member of the Mormon Church. There is also prejudicial treatment against us, but not nearly as bad as it was previously. Did you know that in the early days of my church(founded in 1830) there was actually an EXTERMINATION ORDER issued against members of my church? I had relatives that were killed in raids led by the politicians in charge. Governor Boggs of the state of Missouri issued the Executive Order # 44 on 10-27-1838. This order was not formally resinded until 1976!!! Not to brag, but the Mormon Church has seemed to overcome that also, instead of just asking the Govt to take care of them. They have a tremendous following worldwide, leaders in both parties of the Congress, a man who would've been a great president(Romney) and many leaders that have overcome their mistreatment in history.

There are many other groups that have also suffered injustices or prejudice, but you don't hear them using it as an excuse for their behavior generally.

My point is not that Blacks or Hispanics or others haven't received a short stick , but so have others. GET OVER IT and quit using it as a crutch . I'm generalizing, but overall, you keep hearing it as an excuse by some groups and I'm tired of it. Gates was in the wrong. Obama acted "stupidly" with his comments without knowing the facts.
If you think otherwise, so be it. Rich.

Originally posted by Eddie Ziv

What's interesting to me here is that all the respondents in this thread are White.

Oh, really? You have never met me. You don't know what my race is.

MikeOH,
I don't think Obama or Gates is racist, at least not publicly.
I also think Prof. Gates was wrong for disrespecting the police officer. I'm sure he would like to go back in time undue or handle the situation better but I'm sure all of us wish we could press the DO OVER button.
Rich Weese,
You are delusional!
Are you comparing African American struggles to someone with excess body fat?
REALLY - Excess body fat is control disease and whose fault is that you didn't have the self control to stop King or Super sizing all your value meals. I don't know if you know this but you are born into a RACE. You can't change it or buy another one. You are stuck the way you are born. I know some people believe the obesity is a disease but you have to look at the FACTS. America is the fattest country in the world but the only one that classifies being overweight as a disease.
Are you comparing African American struggles to Japanese descendants, survivors, or casualties of WW2?
REALLY -You may not be aware of this FACT but that event took place in another country and. What's going on with African Americans is happening in America. We can't possible control what other nations or doing to their own people or even people surrounding them but we can control how we treat fellow American citizens.
Are you comparing African American struggles to the EXTERMINATION ORDER of the Mormon Church?
REALLY - Last I checked when someone asked the question "What religion are you practicing?" I had time to change my answer. To reiterate my point earlier, people are born a certain RACE. You can't change it on a moments notice. As awful as your Mormon story sounds I'm sure you weren't counted as less the a person for voting purposes or couldn't attend a certain school because of your skin color and the government used purposely entered drugs into communities and that's just the tip of the Iceberg. One more comment about being Mormon in America, many Mormons didn't believe black people did not possess souls (Google it if you don't believe me).
Another FACT, African Americans are AMERICANS. I am an AMERICAN 1st and African last. I have no intentions of going to Africa. As far as I am concerned you can only call me an AMERICAN. I think it's absurd that people really think that African Americans are really given a fair shot.
Rich I don't think that African Americans are considering any event as a crutch but a hurdle that we will jump over, just like we've done and will always do. AWI :D