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Real Estate Investor · Grants Pass, Oregon


I have a house under contract for $115k. There is an existing mortgage on the property for $80k. I listed the property for $119k and I got an email from a buyer asking if we can carry if they put $40k down. Obviously at this point I don't know if the buyer is for real but I think I'll just play it like they are.

Previously, the seller said he needed his money out of the deal, which is $30k I believe. My question is, if the buyer is for real and has $40K how can I put this together? I'm sure you guys will need more info so just ask, I gotta take off right now.

Jeff


Real Estate Investor · Grants Pass, Oregon


I was in a hurry when I posted that last response and didn't explain what I had in mind. Here is what I was thinking:

I offer the seller 35K as a down payment on the 115K we agreed upon, he carries the balance of $80k. If he did that, could I take a second position or create a note for the difference and have my buyer make payments to me? This is beyond my expertise so please correct anything that is wrong here or better yet, how would you guys make a deal like this work?

Jeff


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


What are you thinking you will sell it for? Could you structure it as a sub 2 where you keep the seller's current loan in place? You can certainly create a second, from your buyer to you with the house as security. You can make that for any amount you wish. Since you're in second position, you have little leverage if the buyer stops paying. But, if you could pocket $5-10K on the deal, and have the potential for a payment stream, it might be worth the risk. With $40K into the deal, the buyer has a lot to lose.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Grants Pass, Oregon


Originally posted by Jon Holdman
What are you thinking you will sell it for? Could you structure it as a sub 2 where you keep the seller's current loan in place? You can certainly create a second, from your buyer to you with the house as security. You can make that for any amount you wish. Since you're in second position, you have little leverage if the buyer stops paying. But, if you could pocket $5-10K on the deal, and have the potential for a payment stream, it might be worth the risk. With $40K into the deal, the buyer has a lot to lose.



Jon,

I didn't think about a Sub2 but that would work great. My sellers main goal was to get his money out of the deal and 30-35k would do that. I'm thinking about setting the sales price for $129k with a 3 year balloon payment at 12% interest. What do you think?

Jeff


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


So, $129K less $40K down leaves $89K. Leave the $80K note in place, create a new one for $10K. At 12% and (say) 10 year amortization (like a HELOC), due in three. Payments on that note are $143.47 and after three years they owe $8,127.41. You pay the seller $30K and pocket $10K. If they quit paying, you probably don't want to bother foreclosing, but you still have the $10K from the front end.

This all assumes the seller's note is reasonable (i.e., not an ARM that's about to do a major adjustment) and the seller is willing to go along with the sub2.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Grants Pass, Oregon


Thanks Jon, I think this is a very workable deal. The seller has a 30 year fixed rate, not sure what the interest rate is but it was taken out about a year ago. I think my seller would be happy with this deal, I'll see if I can put it together.

Jeff


Real Estate Investor · Denver, Colorado


Good luck. Let us know how it works out.

Small_flying-phoenixJon Holdman, Flying Phoenix LLC


Real Estate Investor · Grants Pass, Oregon


Thanks Jon, I'll keep you posted.

Jeff


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