1031 and FAFSA plus WWYD with investments

1031 and FAFSA plus WWYD with investments

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Experienced renovator but newbie investor + single mom with 2 kids, 9th and 4th grades. I own real estate I've renovated and all are paid off in full: 

#1) primary home until mid-last year (approx $1M), market in going up and in fast-growing top 20 city and close to center city. My plan was to rent it (approx $4200/month) for 2-3 year, use the money to make updates and capture further growth, then sell and put into 1031 since I'm single and will have closer to $400K appreciation. We moved to a better school district; I'm renting now until I can find a house to renovate. It will be much cheaper than this house. I've learned my lesson about larger and expensive houses - more costly to maintain and harder to rent out. 

#2) Former home in another state, worth approx $275K, currently rented for $1500/month. In a growing beach resort. No chance of flooding. I can rent yearly but not AirB&B. I had a lot of interest when I rented it out last summer and have a great tenant. I rented it out several years ago - I can keep it rented, although quality can be an issue at the beach.

#3) Land in same place as #2. Was going to build when I moved. Approx value is $300K. It's in a desirable neighborhood in a growing beach resort....but not so close to water that it will be flooded. Land is worth more than building and then selling.

Also investing in a new business idea I have. I own another business that has seen a steady decline so time for something new.

Any suggestions are welcome re:  

1) Maximizing investment potential. I find it hard to sell once I buy! And I like to own things outright - easier to sleep at night, since I'm the only income producer, but I know not always the best investment idea. Also, almost all my net worth is in real estate. 

2) My older kid wants to be an orthodontist and has many years of schooling ahead, so if I can make any changes now knowing FAFSA is coming in 1-2 years, this is the time. 

Thanks for reading this long post and especially any recos!

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  • Dave FosterBusiness Member
    Qualified Intermediary for 1031 Exchanges · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    6y

    @Alys Brown, One thought regarding the former primary - Since it is investment right now you can sell and do a 1031 immediately of course.  But right now also you have lived in the property for 2 out of the previous 5 years.  So it also qualifies for the primary residence exemption.  You could sell now and take the first $250K of profit tax free and 1031 the rest.  Use the tax free cash to get your next primary or build on the lot or or or ...  Use the 1031 to get into better cash flow.

    With your assets the Fafsa is going to be difficult to get down to any kind of pell grant status.  And you want to avoid student loans as long as possible.  Have you looked at the opportunity for dual enrollment ( state pays for high school students to take college classes).  Most states have some kind of program like that.  My two oldest both got their AAs by age 18 and it was all paid by the state.  That won't get you more financial aid.  But two free years of college isn't bad.

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  • Daniel DietzPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Reedsburg, WI · Member since 2011 · 1k+ posts · 857 votes
    6y

    From my experience the basically the only two things that don't count as Parental Assets are most retirement accounts and cash value life insurance.

    My wife had receive a sizeable inheritance right when our kids were getting to that age. I have an older Universal Life Policy that we dumped most of that into. There are different rules for most plans now a days. If was able to pay the premiums internally and earn 4-5% on top of that. I think that *maybe* annuities fall under that rule too. 

    If you are self employed, even part time, you can open a SOLO401K which has pretty high contribution limits and you could do some of your real estate that way.

    One other thing to keep in mind is that it is the "net" value of your investment properties that counts. Meaning if it is worth 100K, and you own 80K, your net value it 20K.

    A new book that just came out is Debt Free Degree that is avaialble on the Dave Ramsey website that I have been hearing great things about.

  • Member since 2019 · 5 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    Thank you Dave and Daniel! Learned something I didn't know from both posts. Most importantly, I thought I had to put the entire amount in the 1031, not the profit above $250K. Big difference that I didn't know! I also will learn more about net value for FAFSA. Thanks much to you both!

    I'm going to get my 9th grader reading and thinking about cash flow to help pay for grad school since it assuredly will not be paid for. I've read a few other FAFSA suggestions (don't sell next year, because that will show up; I'm going to buy a much smaller house where we live now, so spend proceeds to build a garage/apartment that I can rent out for our primary residence) that I'll post later to get feedback. I'm struggling between selling my former residence now vs. rent it out since I know the value will go up. 

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