Looking to rent out my townhouse but needs work

Looking to rent out my townhouse but needs work

Burke, VA · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 5 votes

Good day all.  I have a few RE quandaries that I could use some help with and I wasn't sure where exactly to start this post but I suppose this can serve as my BP introduction as well :-)  By way of introduction, my wife and I own a townhome in Northern Virginia (6 min. walk to VRE station) that we are contemplating selling (more space, expand family, etc.) but we're not in a position to sell right now.  My parents house has an in-law suite and they've suggested we move in with them for a year or so and rent out our house.  Ideally, this would allow us to save a significant amount of money towards either a new home or investment property.  

The house needs some work, however.  Nothing major but things like the crown molding and carpet need replacing, the fire place needs to be checked, the kitchen counters are formica, dated appliances but not too dated, etc.  All passable but I'm a bit of a perfectionist.  Thus, my questions are:

-how much do we need to do (should do) in order to get our house rent-ready?

-after checking the rent comps in my neighborhood, I know we're going to run cash negative but should we be willing to take a small hit for the potential savings by moving in with the folks?

Thanks in advance for you insight and go BP Family!!

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Investor · Juneau, AK · Member since 2015 · 980 posts · 741 votes
10y

Patrick, neat idea.... good questions...

One concept that helped me (alot) as a newbie was understanding the difference in  the showroom condition of a house (often newly remodeled) that is for sale and one that is a standard rental... This is sale versus fair rental condition... 

For rental condition, make sure everything is clean and functional (and safe) and has amenities similar to those in your area and price range.... no need to make it look like HGTV after shots...

Some of these items you list sound cosmetic and it may fair well in your rental market as is or with just some minor fixes (again, I would look at similar units for rent (not sale) in the area to get an idea if formica and older carpet is the norm in your area and price range...)

And I would simply look at temporarily blocking off or restricting the fireplace use, clean the carpet, tack on the molding. Then study up on BP and elsewhere about some basic landlording processes (like screening tenants, etc)...

When you sell it in a few years, then be a perfectionist to get it in show condition with new counter tops, appliances and floors to wow would be buyers... truth be told, if you replace these now, a few years of wear and tear by renters may mean you'd just have to redo it anyway to get perfect sale condition down the road... Best of luck.

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  • Investor · PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 602 votes
    10y

    It sounds like it can be rented in the condition it is in.  I would probably get the carpets cleaned if they look bad.

  • Burke, VA · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    @Jassem  Thx.  I thought that I may be over thinking it but I wasn't sure.  To my wife the carpets look bad but she doesn't like berber carpet.  To me, it's passable for the next year or so.  

  • Real Estate Agent · Gaithersburg, MD · Member since 2016 · 99 posts · 32 votes
    10y

    Remember to check and see if you need to obtain a rental occupancy permit in Northern Virginia. 

  • Investor · Juneau, AK · Member since 2015 · 980 posts · 741 votes
    10y

    Patrick, neat idea.... good questions...

    One concept that helped me (alot) as a newbie was understanding the difference in  the showroom condition of a house (often newly remodeled) that is for sale and one that is a standard rental... This is sale versus fair rental condition... 

    For rental condition, make sure everything is clean and functional (and safe) and has amenities similar to those in your area and price range.... no need to make it look like HGTV after shots...

    Some of these items you list sound cosmetic and it may fair well in your rental market as is or with just some minor fixes (again, I would look at similar units for rent (not sale) in the area to get an idea if formica and older carpet is the norm in your area and price range...)

    And I would simply look at temporarily blocking off or restricting the fireplace use, clean the carpet, tack on the molding. Then study up on BP and elsewhere about some basic landlording processes (like screening tenants, etc)...

    When you sell it in a few years, then be a perfectionist to get it in show condition with new counter tops, appliances and floors to wow would be buyers... truth be told, if you replace these now, a few years of wear and tear by renters may mean you'd just have to redo it anyway to get perfect sale condition down the road... Best of luck.

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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
    10y

    It sounds like it is probably in rentable condition. If you want to take some pictures, Id be happy to look at them, then look at the comps to give you a more definite answer.

  • Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 531 posts · 266 votes
    10y

    How cute is your furniture/decor? If your place shows well, they very well may look past the appliances and carpet. If that is the case, then show while you still live there. 

    As for whether to buy or sell if you think your property is in an appreciating area, then hold and rent it out. You only need 3% down to purchase a new house. It may make sense to buy and sell, then invest that $ into a positive cash flow property. 

  • Burke, VA · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    @Sam Lin - Thanks for the notice.  That's something I definitely would have overlooked.

    @Michael Boyer - Great advice.  It really is mostly cosmetic so I'll focus on tidying a few things up.

    @RussellB - I'll take you up on that.  Appreciate it.

    @Sarah - Thank you.   When venturing up or down (depending on your perspective) the rabbit hole that is RE, it's tough for a newbie like myself, I've discovered, to delineate b/w buying the home to grow old in vs. a property with an eye towards investing.  

  • Springfield, VA · Member since 2013 · 113 posts · 32 votes
    10y

    @Patrick Edelin

    Welcome to BP!

    Everyone has made some great points. I think the move makes sense if your savings will more than make up for the negative cash flow. I invest in the Midwest, but live in Springfield, VA so I know the area well. I also rent my personal residence so I'm familiar with the rental market. You and I both know that the top end rents in Burke are based on new carpet, hardwood floors, granite counters, and new appliances. But there's also demand for the lower end rents. I personally rent a place with Formica countertops and older carpet (needs to be stretched) because it saved us at least $400 a month on rent compared to the places that have been updated more recently. So you can probably rent it as is, but know that you will get the lower end of rents in your neighborhood. This can also mean a lower quality tenant depending on how low the rent ends up being. I'm not a real estate agent, but I'm also happy to take a look at pictures/details and let you know my opinion if you'd like. Best of luck and good job reaching out to the community! You'll find this is a great resource.

  • Fairfax, VA · Member since 2016 · 1 post · 1 vote
    10y

    I would look for rentals in your area and compare the rents they are asking and the condition of your place.  That should give you an idea of what you can get for your place as is, verses putting money in.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Winchester, VA · Member since 2014 · 136 posts · 34 votes
    10y

    Looks like your getting a great intro, by getting some great advise. Welcome to BP! I am in Winchester, VA and cover the NOVA area. My thoughts are to remove yourself from the specifics of the property. Establish your goals and objectives for real estate. Then approach the decisions about your property through the lens that you have created.

    Are you seeking to simply maximize profit from a sale by waiting to sell?

    Are you wanting to build a rental portfolio...?

    Happy to discuss any time. Just PM me, call or text. 

  • Burke, VA · Member since 2016 · 14 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    @Jacob - I LOL'd when you mentioned stretch because that is exactly what needs to happen with our carpet.  And great overall insight.

    @Clifton - Nice reminder that it's important to take a step back and survey the entire forest.  Still working on overall RE goals. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Fairfax, VA · Member since 2014 · 328 posts · 101 votes
    10y
    Hey Patrick Edelin I work a lot with rentals, helping most of my friends that are right out of college, as well as some analysis for landlords. If you want a professional opinion about your house feel free to reach out.
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