New Investor in Marysville Ohio

New Investor in Marysville Ohio

Rental Property Investor · Marysville, OH · Member since 2015 · 22 posts · 18 votes

Hello BP! I created my account some time ago and have been in analysis paralysis for the better part of a year now. Well, I have finally crossed that invisible barrier and decided to take action by finding and purchasing my first rental property.

My area of focus is single family rentals as buy and hold investments in Marysville, OH 43040. The deal has to be 20% below current market value and must have some way for me to add value through renovations or improvements to the property. Ideally the property should have 3 BR 2 BA and be between 1,200 and 2,000 SQ. FT. in size.

I recently offered on a property and was in contract up until last week. The inspection revealed way more deferred maintenance than I originally anticipated so I chose to walk away from the deal.  Below is the property analysis before I realized the property needed over $20,000 in work!  The only reason I accepted the seller’s counter offer after my first low ball offer is because I deviated from my criteria.  I justified the purchase price because I could take out management expenses, manage it myself and get decent cash flow.  Moving forward I will always factor in management expenses even if I plan on self managing (thank you BP podcasts).

One thing I failed to see at the time is because of the size and style of the home, it would be really difficult to sell to anyone but another investor. The purpose of my criteria is to keep my exit options open to both investors and homeowners in case I need to liquidate the property quickly.

This property had existing tenants who wanted to stay and were currently month-to-month. I see this as a potential positive or negative. We would not have to screen tenants and would have immediate cash flow, but by not having the opportunity to screen the tenants, it is hard to tell what kind of tenant issues we would have with in the future.

Needless to say, the $400 I spent on the inspection was well worth the price to get out of a potentially bad deal. I now have a clearer vision of what I want and I am going to focus on finding a deal within my set criteria. I have been researching my local market and what I have found is property prices seem elevated and good properties are typically in contract within a day or two after hitting the MLS. Deals through the MLS are difficult to find and I am not seeing many foreclosures or distressed properties to take advantage of. Maybe I am not looking in the right places? I am going to try some direct mail marketing targeting absentee homeowners. I am creating my list by manually searching properties on our county auditor's website. It is a slow and tedious process, but last night it only took me one hour to find 30 addresses with absentee owners.

I am sure there are faster more efficient ways to find these lists, but for now this process is getting the job done.

I look forward to becoming more involved in BP community as I begin and develop my investing career! Thank you for listening!

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  • Investor · Delaware, OH · Member since 2016 · 23 posts · 5 votes
    10y

    Hi Adam,

    Thanks for posting your numbers, I always like to see real world analysis from other to sanity check how I do my own! I am from Delaware OH and I am with you on the difficulty of finding good cash flowing deals around Marrysville (and Delaware). Low inventory, hot buyer's market, inflated prices, and properties typically have one or two offers on them days after hitting the MLS. However, there are some deals still out there, they are just tough to find. I am currently in contract on my first property after multiple failed offers and having had analysis paralysis for nearly six months.

    Be persistent, the MF property I am in contract on now is my third attempt. I found this one after expanding my search area and changing my criteria for the type of property that I am looking for. It has been a slow road, I had thought about giving up, but decided to keep trying, here is some history - My first attempt, I was outbid on a great SF HUD foreclosure deal. A couple of months later, my second attempt was for a MF property with a lot of deferred maintenance, and it had set on the market way over a year with only 1 offer on it. I ran the numbers and place on offer on it, it (somewhat suspiciously) had another offer come in higher an hour or so after I made mine. I was willing to negotiate with the seller on this one, but they wanted "Best and Final" for each offer, with no negotiating,so I got a bad feeling in my gut and pretty much walked away from it. (The cash flow would have only been mediocre at best ). The one I am in contract on now is my third attempt, I am not counting my chickens until it closes, but am hopeful! :)

    MF homes, while they cash flow better, they do sit on the market much longer as a lot of them around here barely meet the 1%.    Several in Delaware have been for sale for over a year and have dropped their prices multiple times just to get to 1%.   I am guessing the best buying strategy for good deals in this area are word of mouth, yellow mail marketing, or finding ones that have deferred maintenance where you suspect the landlord wants out of the game. (A totally unrelated thought - I bet a good exit strategy for these types of properties around here may be to convert them back to a single family home, and then sell.  My guess is they will go much quicker and for a much higher price.)

    Good luck, tweak your marketing, strategy and search area, you WILL find a good deal.

    Ed

  • Rental Property Investor · Marysville, OH · Member since 2015 · 22 posts · 18 votes
    10y

    Ed,

    Thanks for the reply, it is good to hear from another local investor.

    That is a great tip on converting a multifamily to a single family to improve your exit options.

    Are you investing outside of Delaware?  Are you finding other areas that are better suited for buying investment properties?

    I am currently building an absentee homeowners list and plan on sending out yellow letters in hopes of generating some leads.  For now I am focusing on one neighborhood (Mill Valley, which has hundreds of homes) since I know the rental rates and the economics of the area.  I am also thinking about pursuing sheriff sale properties which I know are inherently more risky, but there good deals to be had.

    Good luck on your latest deal!  I look forward to hearing how that works out for you.

  • Investor · Delaware, OH · Member since 2013 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    10y

    Adam and Ed:

    It's great to read posts from local investors!  I have been trying to find my first deal in the Delaware area since January.  Single family homes though, not multi-family.  I've been outbid several times and had a property under contract last week.  However, after inspections revealed more costly plumbing and electrical problems than my budget would allow, I had to walk away.  I am trying to get to the point where I can have a general contractor walk a property with me (or with my husband) immediately so that I can get rehab costs quickly and be able to make an offer.  Really hard to have all my facts, numbers, research, etc together and in place within hours of a house hitting the market!  

    I've done driving for dollars, spent countless hours on auditor and sheriff sale sites - very frustrating! I've pretty much given up on HUD homes since they almost always are sold to owner occupants. I did attend the Delaware county sheriff sale a few weeks ago and will likely pursue that option more seriously.

  • Rental Property Investor · Marysville, OH · Member since 2015 · 22 posts · 18 votes
    9y

    Since it has been some time since I posted on BP, I thought it was time for an update. The last several months have been very busy for me. Since the my last post, I successfully found an off-market four-plex, purchased the property, partially renovated 1 vacant unit and I am getting ready to advertise the unit this weekend.

    I found the property by sending yellow letters to absentee owners I found on the county auditor’s page. I did not go crazy, I only sent out about 100 letters to test the waters. I did receive 3 phone calls and 1 of those happened to be a local investor with a single family home for sale. My offer was too low for him, not even in the ballpark. After declining my offer, her asked me about multi-families and told me he has a four-plex he is looking at selling. Long story short, I looked at it, like what I saw, made an offer, he accepted and we closed the deal. The most difficult part about this is the seller did not use a realtor and was not willing to pay buying agent fees so we did it all without agents. I drafted the purchase contract, negotiated the terms to a number we agreed upon. The seller made the arrangements with the title office for closing.

    I did have an inspection done which was interesting with a four-plex. Here is a hint, get multiple quotes. I found a guy who started his own inspection company and wanted to get his name out there and get some experience under his belt. He inspected all four units for $450 which was much cheaper than many other quotes I received.

    I inherited 3 tenants with this property and the 4th unit went vacant right before closing. So I cleaned out the apartment (the tenant left it full of trash and belongings), painted the walls, put new carpet in, bought a new fridge, replaced the toilet, had the tub faucets changed out, replaced a window and now the unit is ready to rent. I am going to rent this unit starting at

    Tenant management has been a learning experience, especially with inherited tenants. The previous landlord was very relaxed on his policies so I am having to train the tenants and increase the rents to market value. I drafted my own lease using examples from Bigger Pockets (Thank you Brandon Turner) and examples online. The tenants will be required to sign the new lease for 2017. I decided to keep them on month-to-month leases and only raise the rents $25 so I do not scare them off. These are long term tenants I would like to keep and they appear to take care of their units. I am on the fence whether I should raise rents again in 2018 or sub-meter the water which I am currently paying. More on that later!

    Maybe I got lucky on finding an off-market deal after sending only 100 yellow letters maybe not, but either way my strategy worked! Even though I have spent over a year reading books, reading forum posts and listening to podcasts every day, every step of the way has been a great learning experience. Our current plan is to sit tight for a year and stabilize the property by increasing rents and taking care of a lot of exterior deferred maintenance. I want to see what the economy and housing market does over the next year and then start getting back in the market for another property. I am loving the idea of multi-family properties right now. I currently have 1 unit vacant and I am still making money. I am looking into the idea of buy a turnkey property through Morris Invest and get into a market with a lower price point for entry. I am a hands on person but I am thinking I want to give the hands-off approach a try for expanding my portfolio. Thanks to Bigger Pockets for the wealth of information you have provided me. I probably would not be where I am not if BP did not exist!

  • Real Estate Agent · Marysville, OH · Member since 2016 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    9y

    Great to hear about your success here locally, it's encouraging to know there is opportunity out there.

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    9y

    Welcome to the site @Adam Fout

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