Newbie from SF Bay Area / Silicon Valley, CA - Kyle Buyers

Newbie from SF Bay Area / Silicon Valley, CA - Kyle Buyers

San Jose, CA · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 3 votes

Hello Everyone,

I found BP a few weeks ago and have been voraciously reading and listening as much as I can since. I’m hoping to (1) introduce myself, and (2) get some guidance/wisdom on my current situation.

First off, nice to meet all of you and thank you for spending your time helpfully here. I’m a Bay Area, CA resident (most of my life) looking to make my first purchase in the next year or so. I’ll be getting help to make the down payment (still confirming the upper limit), and I hope to have it be a live-in property so I can funnel my usual rent payments into equity instead.

Based on the BP eBook, I’ve identified that the best strategy for me is to get a small multi-family unit. This is for several reasons:

  • I have a W2 day job that I very much like and plan on keeping; this definitely limits the approaches I can take/strategies available, given it’s a 40+ hr/week job with some travel
  • My goal here is to increase my net worth first, and earn cash flow second. I am 30, and aim to retire/earn financial independence by 45.
  • Ideally I want to earn cash flow, though I realize in this area it’s a pipe dream and at best I will just cover my costs (which I believe is okay, because building equity will still help)
  • The markets I know best are the ones I’ve lived in for many years, which is the Bay Area first, Vancouver BC second (though I’d prefer to not deal with cross-country finances), and Lake Tahoe, CA third. Though I’m open to investing in Tahoe, I won’t be able to live there while working (it’s a 4+ hour drive) so I believe that’s out for now.


Current situation:

  • Excellent credit
  • Down payment ready, though I am confirming exact number with my father who is planning to help with this
  • Working in San Jose/95125, would prefer to not have to commute more than 40 minutes/day
  • Family is in Sunnyvale, Foster City, and SF so I’d rather not move too much farther south than SJ
  • My skills: I’m extremely detail-oriented, good with numbers, and work in Marketing for a living. I am less handy though (so house-flipping is out). I’m the type of person who looks into the fine print and has the grit to push through to make something happen; I understand real estate is a challenging, long-term game and I’m comfortable with that.


Questions and challenges:

  • Should I look into down payment assistance and use the money from my father to improve a property/force appreciation instead?
  • Is a multi-family property even possible/available in my price range?
  • Alternatively, should I try to find as large a house as I can afford with many rooms, then rent out to roommates/tenants instead?
  • If I’m looking to make money off this and lower my tax burden, should I start a separate company that owns the property, pays the team (contractors, accountant, etc.), and manages the tenants? Or is that overkill?
  • Given my current situation, are there other approaches I’m overlooking that I shouldn’t?
  • Anything else I’m missing?

Again, THANK YOU all for your willingness to help (or even read this long intro). I know the Bay Area is a unique and challenging market. Hopefully I meet some of you along the way, and I’d be happy to buy you lunch and glean some wisdom if you’ve been working with real estate here for 5+ years.  :)

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  • Shawnee Mission, KS · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 4 votes
    9y

    Welcome to BP! I'm pretty new here myself so I'm not much help to you at this point. I wish you well on your path to financial freedom!

  • San Jose, CA · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    9y

    Thanks @Chad Offerdahl you too!

  • Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    @Kyle Buyers

    Hello Kyle,

    I am a real estate investor located in the north bay. I have been flipping and have experience as a landlord since 2012.

    Your market is a high priced market and I would be surprised if Duplex or larger units were not priced higher then north bay so I can’t really approach your question about down payment specifically.

    I would caution that lenders do require more down percentage wise for a multi unit property then a single family but that having renters under your roof is not an ideal situation and has some potential for issues.

    I would also strongly suggest that as a first time investor that you not do an investment 4 hours from your home base. The logistics of management would be difficult. Finding a tenant takes some time and screening and unless you plan on using a management company and giving them about 5% of revenues renting the units would be problematic from South Bay. Same with any maintenance requests.

  • Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    @Kyle Buyers

    Oh and on the forming a company, if you are living on the property it probably is not worth the effort.

    CA charges $800/year for a LLC plus you have to deal with the filings.

    While I would strongly suggest you confirm this with your tax preparer I believe ypurtax deductions would be equally beneficial, or more depending on your max income, if you kept the property in your name.

    Also lenders get squirrelly about lending to LLC ‘s that have no history.

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