Time frame to put a mortgage on free and clear property

Time frame to put a mortgage on free and clear property

Investor · Vineland, NJ · Member since 2013 · 113 posts · 18 votes

How soon can you put a mortgage on a free-and-clear home? FYI tenants are in place...

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  • Investor · Hendersonville, NC · Member since 2016 · 138 posts · 71 votes
    9y

    I'm doing this right now...refinancing a property I just closed on this month, tenants in place.  This house already has a closed in deck that was never recorded with the county, so I can add >20% to the square footage with only some paperwork and fees.  However, because I am refinancing within six months, I am limited to refinancing at my purchase price, regardless of where it appraises.

    If I wait six months, I can make improvements and refi at a new appraisal value.

    However, I was told there is a possible loophole. In my case, I own the house in an LLC. Theoretically, I could sell it to myself (or my wife) at a modest markup. Then refi within six months at the new sale price. Again, it would have to appraise at the new sale price.

    Bounced it off my lender, and he said no...that kind of thing was a contributing factor to the housing crisis.  I'm already way down the road with him on this refi anyway, so I'm not going to explore it any further.  If I did, I would seek legal counsel.

  • Investor · Union, NJ · Member since 2011 · 838 posts · 295 votes
    9y

    Pearce,

    Aside from lender disallowing this, how would you deal with the tax implications IE. short term capital gains tax? Also I believe the sale needs to be "an arms length transaction" which this is not....

    Sounds like what you are currently doing is the best option.

    best,

    Chris

  • Harjeet BhattiPro Member
    Lender · Glenview IL- CDLP NMLS#230554 · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 747 votes
    9y

    Average closing time is 30 days. It can be done sooner all depend on paperwork.

  • Investor · Vineland, NJ · Member since 2013 · 113 posts · 18 votes
    9y

    @Pearce G. Did you go with a "big bank" or a local, smaller bank? 

  • Investor · Hendersonville, NC · Member since 2016 · 138 posts · 71 votes
    9y

    @Barshay Graves Big? yes.  Bank? no.  It is a mortgage lender with a $100B portfolio, but not a full service bank.

  • Investor · Vineland, NJ · Member since 2013 · 113 posts · 18 votes
    9y

    Gotcha. Goes along with my thinking. Banks are not the best route to go. Especially for the non conventional situation. 

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