Selling mid-flip. Why?

Selling mid-flip. Why?

Richmond, VA · Member since 2019 · 48 posts · 28 votes

So I'm finding several properties on my local MLS where it looks like a rehabber has purchased a property, did the demo work, cleaned it up, put on new siding, exterior windows, sometimes a new roof, framed out the structure, and now are advertising it for sale at this point. The only reasons I can think of why someone would do this is A: They realized they are way over budget and are heading for a loss, they want to recoup their investment and move on, leaving someone else to deal with it. or B: they are catering to designer investors who just want to put their finishing touches and design on the property without having to the nasty demo work and such. Is it 1 of these two reasons or am I missing something?

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Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
7y

@Joe Funari An agent certainly does Not have to tell a buyer why a seller is selling, neither legally or ethically ....if anything, that might open up the agent to not fulfilling their fiduciary responsibility to the seller. 

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    Real Estate Agent · Keller, TX · Member since 2017 · 850 posts · 825 votes
    7y

    @Ralph Stowe I have come across this several times over the years. First, call the listing agent or seller if FSBO and get the real story why they did portion of the work. A Realtor will have to give you an honest answer as to why they are selling if seller disclosed it. Most of the time its the seller purchased too many properties at the same time and was cash strapped to complete the rehab because they over extended themselves and didn't calculate the rehab draws correctly from their hard money lender. One such house I helped a fellow investor purchase was gutted down to the studs, foundation and roof was repaired. It was priced right too and my client hit the ground running on rehabbing it for a rental once they closed.

  • Richmond, VA · Member since 2019 · 48 posts · 28 votes
    7y

    That does make a lot of sense. So there is still potential for a profit in these types of properties. You're not just having to clean up someone else's mess. Thanks, Joe.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    7y

    @Joe Funari An agent certainly does Not have to tell a buyer why a seller is selling, neither legally or ethically ....if anything, that might open up the agent to not fulfilling their fiduciary responsibility to the seller. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    One other possible reason is they didn't get permits and/or ran afoul of some other zoning and it screwed their numbers some how.

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 30k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Ralph Stowe:

    So I'm finding several properties on my local MLS where it looks like a rehabber has purchased a property, did the demo work, cleaned it up, put on new siding, exterior windows, sometimes a new roof, framed out the structure, and now are advertising it for sale at this point. The only reasons I can think of why someone would do this is A: They realized they are way over budget and are heading for a loss, they want to recoup their investment and move on, leaving someone else to deal with it. or B: they are catering to designer investors who just want to put their finishing touches and design on the property without having to the nasty demo work and such. Is it 1 of these two reasons or am I missing something?

    Yea you see this when guys get in over their heads or run out of money.

  • Real Estate Appraiser · Isabella lake, CA · Member since 2018 · 628 posts · 491 votes
    7y

    I wouldn't count on the agent to tell you anything. Do your own inspections and research and make sure you're not getting Pandoras box.

  • Rental Property Investor · Concord, GA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    There's any number of reasons someone would bail out of a half done property but I highly doubt it was the original plan. Sometimes once someone opens a project up and sees what all needs to be done they just want out as they realize they didn't correctly assess the repairs or as others stated, ran out of money or realize they will.

    We bought a "cheap" house and then discovered that the renovation was going to be much more extensive than we anticipated. So we tried to sell it, couldn't, let it set empty and now some years later are finally doing the extensive repairs. We'll spend about 3 times what we paid for it to put it in order so we will have to hold this property for 80 years to make it pay. lol.

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