Residential Real Estate Broker · East Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 5 votes
I have finally gotten my first property under contract and should close the end of the month or by mid Oct. It will take me less then a month, I hope and pray to rehab. The question I have is how to avoid paying the big chunk to Uncle Sam. Is 1031 exchanges even done if I only have the ownership for a short time? I know that I want to start the BRRR method but I was thinking maybe 1 or 2 more flips before I do. Thanks in advance for any advise.
Qualified Intermediary for 1031 Exchanges · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 9k+ votes
7y
@Stacey Vilardi, You've got a good game plan put together. However 1031 won't be available for you until you purchase a property with the intent of holding. Until then the properties you are buying primarily to resell will not qualify for 1031. So flip away if you're trying to build a war chest. And once you buy your first hold property that one will be eligible for a 1031 when you decide to sell.
But it might be worth your while to see how the numbers would run on a rent and refi of this first one. You may be too leveraged to get much bang from a rehab and refi. But it also might surprise you what you can get if you rehabbed it and rented it and then refi'd using your rental income in addition as a qualifier - especially if you factor in the massive taxes flipping gets you. That jump starts your Brrrr career and would also make that property qualify for 1031 in a a year or so.
Rental Property Investor · Northern, CA · Member since 2012 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
7y
A typical flip (held primarily for resale) wouldn’t qualify for a 1031 exchange. Flips are generally taxed as ordinary income subject to self-employment taxes.
Congrats on getting your first property under contract though!
Accountant · Slidell, LA · Member since 2019 · 382 posts · 272 votes
7y
@Stacey Vilardi You could consider renting your rehab for a period of time to reduce your taxes. If you rented the property after rehabbing it, then you would be considered a landlord instead of a dealer and save on SE taxes. If you sold the property after you owned it for 366 days, then you would only be taxed as long-term capital gains. Furthermore, if you rented it for a period of time, then you would most likely qualify for a 1031 exchange.
Qualified Intermediary for 1031 Exchanges · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 9k+ votes
7y
@Stacey Vilardi, You've got a good game plan put together. However 1031 won't be available for you until you purchase a property with the intent of holding. Until then the properties you are buying primarily to resell will not qualify for 1031. So flip away if you're trying to build a war chest. And once you buy your first hold property that one will be eligible for a 1031 when you decide to sell.
But it might be worth your while to see how the numbers would run on a rent and refi of this first one. You may be too leveraged to get much bang from a rehab and refi. But it also might surprise you what you can get if you rehabbed it and rented it and then refi'd using your rental income in addition as a qualifier - especially if you factor in the massive taxes flipping gets you. That jump starts your Brrrr career and would also make that property qualify for 1031 in a a year or so.
Residential Real Estate Broker · East Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 5 votes
7y
Hello Dave. Thank you for the information. My game plan is exactly that. I think I will be able to start to buy and hold by next year. I intend to have 10 within 3 years in my portfolio. I went to the accountant today and I believe my business plan is within reach. I have my why and I am committed.
Residential Real Estate Broker · East Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2016 · 24 posts · 5 votes
7y
Hello Bob. It unfortunately is not an option with this particular property. It has to be owner occupied for 2 years before the association would even consider allowing you to rent. Then it is up to the board if they allow you to rent. Thanks for your input
Residential Real Estate Agent · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2013 · 803 posts · 689 votes
7y
Flipping houses comes with a tax bill, no way around it. Make sure you account it for it with your final numbers. The TV shows always show how someone makes $100K on a flip but never talks about the almost 40% tax bill they will incur. Paying taxes is a sign you are doing well in you're well in your business. Maybe look into switching to an S Corp to save on your tax liabilities.
Real Estate Broker · Santa Ana CA [South Coast Metro] · Member since 2016 · 459 posts · 202 votes
7y
Hmm, that is the rub. That is the problem no one looks into that. I call it the 2 year flip. Always have a back up plan.
1031 you most likely want to hold for about 14 months, a 2 year timeframe on paper maybe not a full 2 years but has 2 year calendar dates. ie June 2019 to Nov 2020
If you can not rent out the property for 2 years thats tough. What about owner occupy, or family.
If you are a broker or real estate professional you can qualify to deduct passively up to $25k per year on RE activities.