New to Real Estate · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2020 · 5 posts · 4 votes
Hello, my name is Brandon Beardt and I am relatively new to the Bigger Pockets group. I am a 21-year-old college student beginning my final year at California State University, Northridge. I plan on graduating next spring with a degree in Real Estate. After reading books by David Greene, Brandon Turner, and Scott Trench, I realized that real estate can provide a tremendous amount of financial freedom to whoever is willing to put in the work for it. I am fully invested in the stock market at the moment but want to pull it out and start investing in real estate. If pulled out, I would have about $50,000-$60,000 to work with. I have an interest in buying, fixing up, and holding SFH and multiplexes for cash flow, but Los Angeles prices seem too high for me starting out. I understand that out of state investing may be harder for someone first starting out, but perhaps it's one of my better options? I guess what I am asking is, what would you do in my situation? Any advice would be great as this is my first forum post. Thank you to everyone who replies!
Lender · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 264 posts · 161 votes
6y
@Brandon Beardt great foundation to begin investing with! I had a mentor when I started and he would constantly say... "dont worry about the money, worry about learning." While house hacking is a FANTASTIC way to start, I don't believe it's your fastest way to start. I was in your position as well, but San Diego four plexes were too expensive for my $50k to take advantage of with the FHA loans. If you spend all your money on one long term play, it'll be a very smart, but slow process. My suggestion would be to partner up with someone local to LA and learn from them. Put your $50k with them in 1-2 projects this year. Do all the work for them or with them. Learn learn learn. If you have income - from selling RE like you mentioned or other - then I would continue stacking that capital. We are at the HEIGHT of the market right now, don't rush to buy.
Specialist · Westlake Village, CA · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 781 votes
6y
Congratulations on the beginning of your journey. I am a CSUN alumni with a degree in Real Estate. I would discourage out of state to be your first entry to the RE market. Try to work close to where you want to live. Work for/with an investor group where you can learn the ropes & get paid.
Real Estate Agent · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 596 posts · 299 votes
6y
@Account Closed
Also CSUN Alum, and agree with @Ellis San Jose. If you want to connect at a job site in LA, would be happy to chat ideas on what you can do. Also remember to calculate taxes when cashing out stocks so you know exactly how much you will have and how much you will need to pay come tax season.
Rental Property Investor · Chico, CA · Member since 2016 · 625 posts · 336 votes
6y
@Account Closed Welcome! Can you handle roommates or prefer a duplex, triplex 4 plex? This is a good option. You need a place to live, down payment is nominal (because of your savings/stocks), ease of entry into the market and local. If i were in your position I would consider this if in the greater LA area. Another option is to keep renting, start selling real estate and find a deal while in the business and having the market knowledge to make a good decision on a property. Good luck and keep us posted.
Real Estate Agent · Kansas City · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
6y
Start local and house hack with an FHA loan. Whether it is a multi or renting out single family room by room. As being as young as you are you have the flexibility of not a lot of responsibility. You can always start out of state but most markets you'll be in a D/C- area with that price point. Unless you have a great team and you are prepared for all the hassle that comes with it. Also what do you plan to do after college? You mentioned a degree in Real Estate.
Congratulations on the beginning of your journey. I am a CSUN alumni with a degree in Real Estate. I would discourage out of state to be your first entry to the RE market. Try to work close to where you want to live. Work for/with an investor group where you can learn the ropes & get paid.
Also CSUN Alum, and agree with @Ellis San Jose. If you want to connect at a job site in LA, would be happy to chat ideas on what you can do. Also remember to calculate taxes when cashing out stocks so you know exactly how much you will have and how much you will need to pay come tax season.
Hi Nabil, I would love to connect at a job site and chat!
@Account Closed Welcome! Can you handle roommates or prefer a duplex, triplex 4 plex? This is a good option. You need a place to live, down payment is nominal (because of your savings/stocks), ease of entry into the market and local. If i were in your position I would consider this if in the greater LA area. Another option is to keep renting, start selling real estate and find a deal while in the business and having the market knowledge to make a good decision on a property. Good luck and keep us posted.
Hi Dylan, thanks for the welcome! I would probably prefer a multi-plex over a SFH with roommates mainly because of the privacy, but I understand that that privacy comes at a cost. Thank you very much for the advice!
Start local and house hack with an FHA loan. Whether it is a multi or renting out single family room by room. As being as young as you are you have the flexibility of not a lot of responsibility. You can always start out of state but most markets you'll be in a D/C- area with that price point. Unless you have a great team and you are prepared for all the hassle that comes with it. Also what do you plan to do after college? You mentioned a degree in Real Estate.
Hi Caleb, I have put some thought into house hacking and think it's a great way to start. I'm not exactly sure what I plan to do after college. I plan on getting my license in September and hope to use it to my advantage. Thank you for your advice!
Real Estate Broker · San Pedro, CA · Member since 2016 · 206 posts · 89 votes
6y
@Brandon Beardt
I would also say you can buy a something you can househack, like a SFR or duplex. Take advantage of the first time home buyer program with a low down payment, don't go FHA, lots of fees in the back end that people are not aware. There are other non FHA low down payment (5%) programs. Learn to do the work yourself or have friends and family help you out with remodeling. If you rent out the rooms in the SFR or buy a duplex, you will learn how to manage tenants.
Lender · San Diego, CA · Member since 2014 · 264 posts · 161 votes
6y
@Brandon Beardt great foundation to begin investing with! I had a mentor when I started and he would constantly say... "dont worry about the money, worry about learning." While house hacking is a FANTASTIC way to start, I don't believe it's your fastest way to start. I was in your position as well, but San Diego four plexes were too expensive for my $50k to take advantage of with the FHA loans. If you spend all your money on one long term play, it'll be a very smart, but slow process. My suggestion would be to partner up with someone local to LA and learn from them. Put your $50k with them in 1-2 projects this year. Do all the work for them or with them. Learn learn learn. If you have income - from selling RE like you mentioned or other - then I would continue stacking that capital. We are at the HEIGHT of the market right now, don't rush to buy.
Investor · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2018 · 74 posts · 35 votes
6y
Hey @Account Closed
I agree completely with @Ben Stoodley. You can definitely look for a multi-family here in Los Angeles/SoCal, however, you would quickly run out of your capital and would have to wait until you can either save up that amount of cash once more or cash-out refi. I would say to look into out of state markets to invest in and find a group of investors/mentors to learn from and work with.
I'm actually in the same age range as you are and have been investing in the Cleveland market and wholesaling here in SoCal. The choice to invest out of state has been the best decision I've made as of yet and it has treated us well with the opportunity to acquire and close on 6 properties in these past 2 months.
I hope this helps you in the long run. Let me know if there is anything I can help with.
Contractor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 6 votes
6y
@Damian Ramirez
Hi Damian,
Are you BRRRRing the properties ? Or just flipping ? My dilemma is I have the capital 60k and can get more, but I would rather BRRRR than just flip, but I don't have a W-2 for long enough since I started my company about a year ago, but don't want to wait longer...
@Brandon Beardt everyone needs a roof over their head, including you. Start with a house hack, learn the ropes. Start thinking now about where you want to live and start learning about that micro market so that when you buy, you’re confident that you’ve gotten a good price. But, I’d probably wait to buy until you land a job so that you don’t end up commuting long hours.
We are BRRRRing the rental properties we acquire, such as the multi-families, and at times single families as well (short-term). However, we do also flip.
I would suggest going through a hard money lender that does not require a W2 2-year minimum and is okay with bank statements, pay stubs, or even self-employment situations. We use multiple HML's that do not require many documents that traditional financing banks require. I would also suggest going through hard money as it leverages your capital rather than using it all on one property.
You can also look for an experienced investor in your area or wherever you would like to invest, and partner with them to build a track record. It would be far much easier to get lending if you have a property or 2 or 3 under your belt, while as well as making some profit and learning hands-on from someone who knows what they are doing.
Real Estate Agent · Inglewood, CA · Member since 2015 · 294 posts · 150 votes
6y
Charles, what programs are you using for 5% multifamily? My lenders have been running into challenges with these for some time; usually citing income limits that conflict with the income needed to qualify. I was in your city all weekend, a few good duplexes on the mkt.
I would also say you can buy a something you can househack, like a SFR or duplex. Take advantage of the first time home buyer program with a low down payment, don't go FHA, lots of fees in the back end that people are not aware. There are other non FHA low down payment (5%) programs. Learn to do the work yourself or have friends and family help you out with remodeling. If you rent out the rooms in the SFR or buy a duplex, you will learn how to manage tenants.