They are a fund specializing in rehabing and investing in MHPs. The idea of getting into MHP business by passive investment seems interesting. Has anyone done business with or heard of them?
Investor · Sterling Heights, MI · Member since 2015 · 25 posts · 12 votes
8y
@Ji Yang There are MHP fund operators who have proven track records and have been acquiring and oprating MHPs for many years. Although most such fund operators only deal with accredited investors directly, you may also be able to find some among the crowdfunding sites. Typically, the mobile home funds can achieve very attractive COC, a somewhat recession resistant business model, decent upside as well. Judging by their website, without speaking with them personally, it appears that Four Peaks does not have a long track record in the MHP space. Since they are advertising, I assume that they only deal with accredited or sophisticated investors, as well. If you are thinking of investing with Four Peaks, I recommend that you perform an extensive due diligence check on them. Also check our at least a few of the other MHP syndicators and fund operators to compare. That said, it is always great to be exposed to operators that others on the site may not have been exposed to. Good solid passive cash flow opportunities are not easy to find. Good luck with your investing and please share your experience if you decide to invest with them.
Jersey City, NJ · Member since 2016 · 170 posts · 12 votes
7y
I received my Q2 distribution.
Adding other people below who were waiting for this update.
@Account Closed I apologize for my remark.
But our investment is 40 times the monthly payment. So when we did not receive any response to our emails for several days, this naturally triggers concerns and emotions. Which may or may not be valid but we have no way to know until we hear back.
Thanks for getting back to us. We hope our capital is in safe hands with you.
Adding other people below who were waiting for this update.
@Account Closed I apologize for my remark.
But our investment is 40 times the monthly payment. So when we did not receive any response to our emails for several days, this naturally triggers concerns and emotions. Which may or may not be valid but we have no way to know until we hear back.
Thanks for getting back to us. We hope our capital is in safe hands with you.
I would stay away at all costs. Four Peaks Capital Partners appears to be a fraud and I feel I'm scammed. I invested 6 figures about a year ago, and only got one distribution and that was only after numerous calls and emails. Now its 5 months later and no word on the next "quarterly" distribution promised. I send emails, no responses. I call and get an answering service. There is no communication except for an irrelevant biweekly blog that holds no value to me.
Andrew did call me, there was a second distribution I didn't know about and a 3rd supposed to be coming shortly. So it appears a little better that what I thought. Seems there's been some reorganization and my investor relations contact from Four Peaks moved on. This sponsor I will continue to monitor closely.
Rental Property Investor · Uniontown, OH · Member since 2015 · 54 posts · 29 votes
6y
Thanks for the update. I have eagerly wanted to get into this space.. I had a few calls with Sunrise that had some pretty poor answers / or lack of to my questions so was leaning toward Four Peaks since those conversations went better. However based on these experiences still seem too risky versus just going after some of the options with RealCrowd that seem attractive and proven.
Thanks for the update. I have eagerly wanted to get into this space.. I had a few calls with Sunrise that had some pretty poor answers / or lack of to my questions so was leaning toward Four Peaks since those conversations went better. However based on these experiences still seem too risky versus just going after some of the options with RealCrowd that seem attractive and proven.
Agreed. I don't get a great taste or feeling about the MHP sponsors mentioned based on this. I will stick with large funds of proven operators.
Maybe these are isolated incidents, but operators of MF and other assets seem to be more professional.
Well....here we go again with this company! Second quarter in a row with NO distribution!!! I wish I had never heard of them. Their customer relations person quit and you can NEVER talk to someone in person. If anyone has money with them please PM me. I want to explore options to at least recover what I invested with them and it’s substantial. They are blaming everything on COVID but seems that hasn’t affected our dividend payments from our stocks!
UPDATE....I also have talked with Andrew several times since my last post. He has reached out and we are working through issues caused by the COVID situation. I better understand his decisions to preserve capital to protect their parks and investors. Obviously these are unprecedented times and hope we all will be stronger as we learn to deal with it. I still believe affordable housing is a great investment.
Investor · north Idaho · Member since 2017 · 24 posts · 8 votes
5y
They just issued an update but it didn't really say anything. I haven't received a distribution in almost a year. Surely they're collecting most rents, even during COVID. Does anyone have more info on Four Peaks?
Hello Everyone. I invested 250K with Fourpeaks Capital in March of 2018. As of date I have received one payment of about 3K dollars. On their website they promise returns of 8-20%. Do not go near these guys. They do not deliver on what they said. Would be happy to hear from anyone else dealing with them.
Rental Property Investor · L.A. Ca · Member since 2020 · 121 posts · 43 votes
5y
@Ji Yang, I advise reading articles by @Ian Ippolito (also in BiggerPockets) online (google him) about how to vet sponsers and what to look at in a private placement memorandum. He is a very conservative investor and gives excellent advice which helped me a lot. Best to study these and do the correct due diligence beforehand so you are not disappointed in an investment. It is YOUR money and YOUR investment so ensure you do YOUR due diligence. If you buy a house you get a full inspection and check all its points, termites, roof, etc. So you need the checklist of what to look for in a sponsor/syndication. You can see just within this stream that there are upset investors with this group and some misunderstandings about how distributions are even made. This should all be known ahead. Covid was something unexpected and the way the sponser deals with it and the communication with the investors is also important to note. Also there is no scarcity of syndications/sponsors around for any type of asset class so no need to rush into it with one you are unsure of or think there are no others doing it.
Investor · Vacaville, CA · Member since 2016 · 433 posts · 249 votes
2y
I saw an ad for Wavemark Capital which led me to Mike Ayala on linkedin. That led me to this thread. Seems that the website Fourpeakspartners.com is not working any longer. Plus the reviews above sound very bad. Anybody have more recent info on these guys?
I saw an ad for Wavemark Capital which led me to Mike Ayala on linkedin. That led me to this thread. Seems that the website Fourpeakspartners.com is not working any longer. Plus the reviews above sound very bad. Anybody have more recent info on these guys?
Avoid Wavemark Capital. They are in default on my investment and that of several other investors I'm aware of, and probably many more. Yet they are still actively soliciting investments in the fund. Disgusting.
Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 1 vote
2y
Invested with Four Peaks Partners 8 years ago in a MHP. Have never received a distribution and It’s extremely difficult to get communication and financials. I understand that not all deals pan out as pro forma says but at least yearly updates are essential, quarterly even better. Silence is not acceptable.
Hello Everyone. I invested 250K with Fourpeaks Capital in March of 2018. As of date I have received one payment of about 3K dollars. On their website they promise returns of 8-20%. Do not go near these guys. They do not deliver on what they said. Would be happy to hear from anyone else dealing with them.
Invested with Four Peaks Partners 8 years ago in a MHP. Have never received a distribution and It’s extremely difficult to get communication and financials. I understand that not all deals pan out as pro forma says but at least yearly updates are essential, quarterly even better. Silence is not acceptable.
I saw an ad for Wavemark Capital which led me to Mike Ayala on linkedin. That led me to this thread. Seems that the website Fourpeakspartners.com is not working any longer. Plus the reviews above sound very bad. Anybody have more recent info on these guys?
I'm in the Wavemark income fund and am getting paid my distributions