How do people afford homes with this high mortgage rate?

How do people afford homes with this high mortgage rate?

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Yes, the mortgage rate has gone up, real estate sales slows down. But I still see the homes that I favorite in the past few weeks went on pending. Those home price average from $500-$700k. We live in PNW, and I know there are lots of high tech people here that make high income, maybe all of these buyers are just making lots of money? I do not see how a regular family can afford mortgage like 4-5k/month(include taxes)? Unless you are really paying 50% of your income towards your mortgage. Perhaps people just sold their old home and get themselves another home? 

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Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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@Angela Venger

Real estate is the long game. In 2008 I had to sell my primary at a loss and had no other assets and after saving $, building both sweat equity and appreciation, our real estate portfolio is well into 7 figures.

Also our incomes have grown significantly during that time as well and our expenses have gone down as things I wanted in my 30’s I don’t care about in my 40’s

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  • MS · Member since 2015 · 56 posts · 20 votes
    4y

    All cash offers... Or very high down payments...

    Or more likely, the prices will have to drop to affordable prices with these interest rates.  The Fed is *intending* to crash the market.  That's exactly WHY they would raise the interest rates like they have and why they'll continue raising them for the foreseeable future.

  • Member since 2022 · 24 posts · 9 votes
    4y

    I'm in San Francisco and I'm completing a loan for a couple on a 2.8M condo at 75% LTV. Talk about a high mortgage payment. But they make enough money so they will be fine.

  • Rental Property Investor · Ocean Springs, MS · Member since 2022 · 349 posts · 301 votes
    4y

    For me buying down the rate as much as possible was a key component of making it affordable for me. 

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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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    @Angela Venger

    Real estate is the long game. In 2008 I had to sell my primary at a loss and had no other assets and after saving $, building both sweat equity and appreciation, our real estate portfolio is well into 7 figures.

    Also our incomes have grown significantly during that time as well and our expenses have gone down as things I wanted in my 30’s I don’t care about in my 40’s

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  • Real Estate Agent · Member since 2019 · 569 posts · 257 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Angela Venger:

    Yes, the mortgage rate has gone up, real estate sales slows down. But I still see the homes that I favorite in the past few weeks went on pending. Those home price average from $500-$700k. We live in PNW, and I know there are lots of high tech people here that make high income, maybe all of these buyers are just making lots of money? I do not see how a regular family can afford mortgage like 4-5k/month(include taxes)? Unless you are really paying 50% of your income towards your mortgage. Perhaps people just sold their old home and get themselves another home? 


     Most of my buyers are getting 4.125 to 5.125 interest rates on 10/6 arm for jumbo purchase. I am encouraging people to increase loan amounts and partner together so they get a bigger purchase at lower rate that will cash flow better. 

  • Rental Property Investor · MA · Member since 2014 · 420 posts · 213 votes
    4y

    I just saw a development the other day, 70 SFRs at $6.5M each.  The reality is that many have sold their current properties, have fam support, etc etc. 

    I do think the lower end markets will see prices fall like crazy but money always finds money.

  • Investor · Rochester, MI · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 584 votes
    4y

    In 2008 we had the RE crash, now people that our buying have an “inflated paycheck” I’ve seen people I know personally move 1-2 jobs in 6 months and jumped their pay 20% per move. Once supply runs out jobs will be laid off. Where I live people seem or they just want to think everything is all good, when I ask the question they stare at me like I’m the devil, example most of my friends and family work for the car companies I ask them the simple question. Your dealerships have no cars for sale how long will this last until the money runs out? And then your job runs out? The way they get paid is selling cars if you don’t have the product that generates your income how long will that pay last? My opinion there will be a job crash soon and then all the people that bought their over priced RE will be in trouble. My thoughts.

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 887 posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Ricardo Hidalgo:
    Quote from @Angela Venger:

    Yes, the mortgage rate has gone up, real estate sales slows down. But I still see the homes that I favorite in the past few weeks went on pending. Those home price average from $500-$700k. We live in PNW, and I know there are lots of high tech people here that make high income, maybe all of these buyers are just making lots of money? I do not see how a regular family can afford mortgage like 4-5k/month(include taxes)? Unless you are really paying 50% of your income towards your mortgage. Perhaps people just sold their old home and get themselves another home? 


     Most of my buyers are getting 4.125 to 5.125 interest rates on 10/6 arm for jumbo purchase. I am encouraging people to increase loan amounts and partner together so they get a bigger purchase at lower rate that will cash flow better. 

    What kind of LTV needed for a 10/6 jumbo?
  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, Massachusetts (MA) · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    @Angela Venger that’s part of it (the equity)but remember 1) people are being squeezed on rents and rates are expected to go higher so why not buy? 2) the job market is excellent and people have gotten a lot of extra cash 3) inflation has hit salaries as well as housing prices. 4) Rates are still low by historical standards. 5) the people making food money are REALLY making good money—a real have and have not situation

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 887 posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Arsen Atanasovski:

    In 2008 we had the RE crash, now people that our buying have an “inflated paycheck” I’ve seen people I know personally move 1-2 jobs in 6 months and jumped their pay 20% per move. Once supply runs out jobs will be laid off. Where I live people seem or they just want to think everything is all good, when I ask the question they stare at me like I’m the devil, example most of my friends and family work for the car companies I ask them the simple question. Your dealerships have no cars for sale how long will this last until the money runs out? And then your job runs out? The way they get paid is selling cars if you don’t have the product that generates your income how long will that pay last? My opinion there will be a job crash soon and then all the people that bought their over priced RE will be in trouble. My thoughts.

    Excellent points. I stated this in another thread a few days ago. As a hiring manager I've seen many people leverage themselves into a higher paying job, but not because they were qualified or the best person for the job. But because there wasn't a better option and the company was desperate. These will be the first people to go when the layoffs come. 
    And I also agree, and think that (not all), but a lot of the people paying 100k over list with appraisal contingency waivers are the same folks who leveraged themselves into a higher paying job and stretched their DTI to the max to get into something that they can barley afford. The market is already starting to correct, and before long people who purchased at the top of the bubble will see their equity evaporate. Won't take a lot to send those into foreclosure. 
  • Real Estate Agent · Member since 2019 · 569 posts · 257 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Greg R.:
    Quote from @Ricardo Hidalgo:
    Quote from @Angela Venger:

    Yes, the mortgage rate has gone up, real estate sales slows down. But I still see the homes that I favorite in the past few weeks went on pending. Those home price average from $500-$700k. We live in PNW, and I know there are lots of high tech people here that make high income, maybe all of these buyers are just making lots of money? I do not see how a regular family can afford mortgage like 4-5k/month(include taxes)? Unless you are really paying 50% of your income towards your mortgage. Perhaps people just sold their old home and get themselves another home? 


     Most of my buyers are getting 4.125 to 5.125 interest rates on 10/6 arm for jumbo purchase. I am encouraging people to increase loan amounts and partner together so they get a bigger purchase at lower rate that will cash flow better. 

    What kind of LTV needed for a 10/6 jumbo?

    10-15% typically for second or perhaps up to 20% LTV depending on the property.

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